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My *really* short shifter conversion by Icelander
Started on: 10-15-2006 12:16 AM
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Last post by: jscott1 on 10-15-2006 09:41 PM
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Report this Post10-15-2006 12:16 AM Click Here to See the Profile for IcelanderSend a Private Message to IcelanderDirect Link to This Post
I picked up a shift lever out of an '86 Fiero yesterday and decided to chop the snot out of it to see what I could get.

Here's the remains:

On the left is the piece of the shift knob I had to remove so that I could get the threads to even meet on the new shifter.

Before:



After:



Think I'm going to need to make a smaller shift boot...

The shift pattern is so small now that I can reach all the gears without moving my arm at all. I like the height because I'm no longer hanging my hand/arm off the shifter. My whole forearm rests on the center console.

The shift effort is a little higher now, but I'm hoping to smooth that out a little by lubricating the cables and changing to a synthetic gear oil.
Can anyone confirm that Royal Purple was able to help with a smoother shift effort?

This is the first of many changes to occur to my little freebie of a car. I'm enjoying the heck out of it.

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Report this Post10-15-2006 02:49 AM Click Here to See the Profile for JncomuttSend a Private Message to JncomuttDirect Link to This Post
Just use the syncromesh in the trans.

I did similar to mine, but made it so that the bottom of the knob meets the welds when fully screwed in. This is the only pic I can find..
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Report this Post10-15-2006 02:56 AM Click Here to See the Profile for GT-maniacSend a Private Message to GT-maniacDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by Icelander:


Think I'm going to need to make a smaller shift boot...



You could make one I guess but why bother ? Rodney makes a really nice leather shift boot designed for short shifters. Put one on mine after I shortened my shifter and it looks great. I'd never go back to the old shifter.

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Report this Post10-15-2006 10:11 AM Click Here to See the Profile for FierotoyboySend a Private Message to FierotoyboyDirect Link to This Post
Not only does Rodney make a nice boot (it's super-soft-leather), he also makes a short shifter that is.. well, Rodney-like (which is to say, perfect). It's not as short as the ones you total shorty freaks have, but I think it's just perfect.
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Report this Post10-15-2006 10:12 AM Click Here to See the Profile for typhoonSend a Private Message to typhoonDirect Link to This Post
Redline oil is the best stuff I've found. You will notice the difference right now.

http://www.redlineoil.com/products_gearlubricants.asp?productID=45&subCategoryID=17&categoryID=7

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Report this Post10-15-2006 10:17 AM Click Here to See the Profile for FierotoyboySend a Private Message to FierotoyboyDirect Link to This Post
Just another thought on making a short boot.... I did this with a non-Fiero car once... just take the stock boot and hack it to the size you want (from the top), then stitch it in on the sides (take in the original seams) to get rid of the excess material.. I had fun doing that one.
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Report this Post10-15-2006 10:25 AM Click Here to See the Profile for RickNSend a Private Message to RickNDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by Fierotoyboy:

Not only does Rodney make a nice boot (it's super-soft-leather), he also makes a short shifter that is.. well, Rodney-like (which is to say, perfect). It's not as short as the ones you total shorty freaks have, but I think it's just perfect.


I would 2nd Rodney's short shifter boot! It is excellant quality and looks very OEM. I bought Rodney's short shifter also but found the offset of the '84 short shifter to be more comfortable for my size/reach/seating position/etc than the straight up design of Rodney's shifter.

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Report this Post10-15-2006 11:40 AM Click Here to See the Profile for el_roy1985Send a Private Message to el_roy1985Direct Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by typhoon:

Redline oil is the best stuff I've found. You will notice the difference right now.

http://www.redlineoil.com/products_gearlubricants.asp?productID=45&subCategoryID=17&categoryID=7


Sounds good. You use MTL or MT 90? Maybe if I ever notice that I need some I will change to that. If I'm able to find it locally that is.

Short shifter looks good, I shortened mine too. I'm probably goin to shorten it even more before long.
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Report this Post10-15-2006 11:46 AM Click Here to See the Profile for vortecfieroClick Here to visit vortecfiero's HomePageSend a Private Message to vortecfieroDirect Link to This Post
lol that was the first thing i used my new welder for.. years ago...
looks good !

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Report this Post10-15-2006 06:52 PM Click Here to See the Profile for jscott1Send a Private Message to jscott1Direct Link to This Post
That looks good. I took an 84 shifter and had it cut down. But what I really like is my Ultimate Getrag shift kit which really shortens the throw.

Here is a my cut down 84, a stock 84 and a stock 88

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Report this Post10-15-2006 07:26 PM Click Here to See the Profile for IcelanderSend a Private Message to IcelanderDirect Link to This Post
jscott,

Why such an offset on the handle? I find that mine is in the exact right spot without the offset.

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Report this Post10-15-2006 09:24 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Steven SnyderClick Here to visit Steven Snyder's HomePageSend a Private Message to Steven SnyderDirect Link to This Post
I did one just like that when I had my Isuzu. It works great on the Isuzu because that transmission shifts so easily (especially with Synchromesh). I put in a Getrag and had to switch back to a longer shifter to get it into gear easily :-(.
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Report this Post10-15-2006 09:41 PM Click Here to See the Profile for jscott1Send a Private Message to jscott1Direct Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by Icelander:

jscott,

Why such an offset on the handle?

Kendall


I thought you might ask that. I originally posted a pic but I didn't want to steal your thread, but since you asked...

My car is not stock, If I have a 64 oz cup in my cupholder I have to reach around. And I just added a satellite radio in the old ashtray spot. I shift it like a sidestick controller.



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