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Gonna bleed the clutch, however....... by tutnkmn
Started on: 10-10-2006 05:34 PM
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Report this Post10-10-2006 05:34 PM Click Here to See the Profile for tutnkmnSend a Private Message to tutnkmnDirect Link to This Post
The slave cylinder at the transmission has the bleeder facing down. I thought the bleeder was supposed to face up and the line came in from the bottom. The car is an 86 1/2 GT with the Getrag 5 speed. Is the orientation of the cylinder wrong and if so will this effect the operation of the cylinder and/or the bleed job? I have read several posts on bleeding the system and am confident of how to do that but need to know what's up with this cylinder first. The mechanic who put the clutch in is notorious around here for buggering stuff up (and charging waaayyy too much for stuff to boot).

Right now the clutch will not completely disengage even when the pedal is to the wall. I am thinking air in the line first (the simple fix) then move on to see if any linkage/pedal is messed up.

Any help as always very much appreciated.

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Report this Post10-10-2006 05:41 PM Click Here to See the Profile for DodgerunnerClick Here to visit Dodgerunner's HomePageSend a Private Message to DodgerunnerDirect Link to This Post
The bleeder should always be up unless you want to turn the car upside down to get all the air out...

Someone put it in wrong.
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Report this Post10-10-2006 05:47 PM Click Here to See the Profile for tutnkmnSend a Private Message to tutnkmnDirect Link to This Post
Plus for Dodgerunner.

Is there any special things I need to know or can I just unbolt the cylinder, flip it and all is well?

Thanks.
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Report this Post10-10-2006 06:02 PM Click Here to See the Profile for John BoelteSend a Private Message to John BoelteDirect Link to This Post
The bleeder and pressure line may be installed incorrectly. On my 84, the slave can only be installed one way. The bleeder goes on top, hose on bottom.
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Report this Post10-10-2006 06:26 PM Click Here to See the Profile for DodgerunnerClick Here to visit Dodgerunner's HomePageSend a Private Message to DodgerunnerDirect Link to This Post
John is most likely right but you can install them either way on most of the cyl.
I just went out and looked at one I had on the shelf and it could be installed either way and the bleeder and line can be switched and work. I was surprised that both holes where machined the same so the bleeder would work in either one.



This was from a 85 or 86 4cyl.
The one on my 85GT is different but the it looks like the lines could be turned around also. It would install either way as well.

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Report this Post10-10-2006 06:41 PM Click Here to See the Profile for tutnkmnSend a Private Message to tutnkmnDirect Link to This Post
Good. Switching the bleeder and line sounds easier then taking the cylinder off

Plus for John Boelte as well.
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Report this Post10-10-2006 07:35 PM Click Here to See the Profile for JdlogSend a Private Message to JdlogDirect Link to This Post
Switching them may be easier but make sure to handle the fluid line properly by using a 2nd wrench to fix the bottom nut in position. The line should have these 2 nuts close to each other where it enters the slave. This counters the rotation on the top nut and avoids damaging the flexible hose (old rubber and hard to get locally). If you can't, turning the whole assembly around may be possible (it is not hard just the 2 nuts).

Good luck. Have fun!

Beno

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Report this Post10-10-2006 07:39 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Robert 2Send a Private Message to Robert 2Direct Link to This Post
with the bleeder at the bottom you'll never be able to get the air out .
Cause air always want to exit at the top
Look in a glass wich way the bubbles are going ? mean a soda or soft drink
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Report this Post10-10-2006 08:07 PM Click Here to See the Profile for DodgerunnerClick Here to visit Dodgerunner's HomePageSend a Private Message to DodgerunnerDirect Link to This Post
Also when when you get the line out of the top hole be sure to check that there is a bottom with a small hole in the center for the bleeder to seal against. If there is no bottom in the hole then you would need to flip the cyl.
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Report this Post10-10-2006 09:05 PM Click Here to See the Profile for tutnkmnSend a Private Message to tutnkmnDirect Link to This Post
I'll take a closer look tommorrow. If the cylinder CAN be flipped it might be safer. The old line looks pretty rusty where it enters the cylinder and I would be afraid of braking it off.

Thanks all - pluses all round!

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Report this Post10-11-2006 09:13 AM Click Here to See the Profile for PyrthianSend a Private Message to PyrthianDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by Robert 2:

with the bleeder at the bottom you'll never be able to get the air out .
Cause air always want to exit at the top
Look in a glass wich way the bubbles are going ? mean a soda or soft drink


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Report this Post10-11-2006 09:11 PM Click Here to See the Profile for tutnkmnSend a Private Message to tutnkmnDirect Link to This Post
Well we attempted the bleed tonight. Air kept getting into the line

The car had a new "style 2" master cylinder on it. Finally in desperation pulled the slave off and removed the boot.

The slave was leaking around the cylinder, not much but it must have been sucking air too

Gonna get a rebuild kit for the slave and try again.

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