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Headlight "winking" kit? by V8IndyProject
Started on: 08-03-2006 02:21 AM
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Report this Post08-03-2006 02:21 AM Click Here to See the Profile for V8IndyProjectSend a Private Message to V8IndyProjectDirect Link to This Post
I thought that I once saw somewhere a kit for the fiero that made it "wink", like when headlights are up and on, you press a button, and one headlight goes down and right back up, like its winking. Does anyone know what I'm talking about, or where I could find this? -Mark
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Report this Post08-03-2006 06:30 AM Click Here to See the Profile for tesmith66Send a Private Message to tesmith66Direct Link to This Post
Mine do that on their own. Don't need a kit, just a worn out motor

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Report this Post08-03-2006 08:46 AM Click Here to See the Profile for 3800superfastSend a Private Message to 3800superfastDirect Link to This Post
I`m not sure if they have such a kit--but it got me thinking in the shop last night after I read this, if you can read wiring schematics, I`m pretty sure it will work. The gen 1 looked easier than the gen 2 to make this happen. This would be kinda fun to look more into what exactly will be needed.
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Report this Post08-03-2006 09:25 AM Click Here to See the Profile for trikerSend a Private Message to trikerDirect Link to This Post
Could you wire in a delay (something like 5-10 seconds) on one headlight, then just use the headlight switch. Flip them on then off as soon as the non delay one is open?

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Report this Post08-03-2006 09:50 AM Click Here to See the Profile for jlwSend a Private Message to jlwDirect Link to This Post
All the relays and wiring for my headlight actuators are bad so instead of fixing it, I just by-passed all the old stuff and hardwired it. Just make a simple loop from the actuator motor to a switch and a hot wire. You will need a double throw switch (6 prongs) or else use two seperate switches. I wired it so that both would go up on the same switch, but all you have to do is make a seperate circuit for each light (2 double throws) instead of wiring them together like I did. This doesn't automatically raise or lower either light, but it gives you manual control over them so you can lower one if you want to and keep the lights on (wink). This may not be what you're looking for since it bypasses all the original wiring. if you do it right though you should still be able to raise the lights using the original light button. If you think you want to try this I'll give you a more detailed procedure and pics.

For anyone wondering what a double throw is and why you need to use it, it is set up as on-off-on. The actuator motors are controlled simply by the direction of the current. Reverse it and the motor spins the other way. This allows you to use one switch to both raise and lower the lights.
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Report this Post08-03-2006 10:04 AM Click Here to See the Profile for 3800superfastSend a Private Message to 3800superfastDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by jlw:
All the relays and wiring for my headlight actuators are bad so instead of fixing it, I just by-passed all the old stuff and hardwired it. Just make a simple loop from the actuator motor to a switch and a hot wire. You will need a double throw switch (6 prongs) or else use two seperate switches. I wired it so that both would go up on the same switch, but all you have to do is make a seperate circuit for each light (2 double throws) instead of wiring them together like I did. This doesn't automatically raise or lower either light, but it gives you manual control over them so you can lower one if you want to and keep the lights on (wink). This may not be what you're looking for since it bypasses all the original wiring. if you do it right though you should still be able to raise the lights using the original light button. If you think you want to try this I'll give you a more detailed procedure and pics.For anyone wondering what a double throw is and why you need to use it, it is set up as on-off-on. The actuator motors are controlled simply by the direction of the current. Reverse it and the motor spins the other way. This allows you to use one switch to both raise and lower the lights.

This was what I was thinking--well not word for word--what are the chances of incorporating in a delay mode like triker said--I like his idea..

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Report this Post08-03-2006 10:20 AM Click Here to See the Profile for jlwSend a Private Message to jlwDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by 3800superfast:

This was what I was thinking--well not word for word--what are the chances of incorporating in a delay mode like triker said--I like his idea..


I'm sure it can be done, but I don't know exactly how. Originally I just had a kill switch for one of my motors since the relay on it wouldn't turn it off. This allowed me to leave that light up or down independent of the other and wink so when the other one died too it just made since for me to do it this way. I don't know a whole lot about electrical stuff, but i would think it would be as simple as just splicing in some sort of delay(course I don't know what exactly you would use as a delay. Only thing I can think of would be a capacitor with a slow charge rate). I'm a big fan of manual control so I have basically no experience with delays and the like :/ .
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Report this Post08-03-2006 12:03 PM Click Here to See the Profile for cabrownSend a Private Message to cabrownDirect Link to This Post
Kind of a cool idea, but to be honest, anyone who saw it without having been told what it's doing or reading this thread, would probably just think there was something wrong with it. Unless there was a way to speed it up. So that it would go down and back up fast enough for a car you were passing to see the whole thing. Would have to go pretty quick. But if there was a way to speed it up, the gears probably couldn't handle it.
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Report this Post08-03-2006 01:07 PM Click Here to See the Profile for StuGoodSend a Private Message to StuGoodDirect Link to This Post
I know exactly how to do it. It doesn't require adding any new wires through the forward firewall. Rather, it communicates to the front end wiring via the existing wires. It requires adding a little unit in the LH headlight bucket area, and another tiny unit inside the car, under the dash.

The setup is activated by grounding a terminal on the underdash unit. You can install a button, of course, or you could wire up a remote control that grounds the terminal (or however you want ).

Anyway, when you actuate it, the LH headlamp opens and the headlight flashes ("winks"). When you release the button (or remote), the headlamp quits "winking" and closes. If the headlights are already turned on and you actuate the thing, the LH headlight flashes its "bright" (high beam). Of course, the headlights behave just like stock otherwise.

I've had the "winky light" installed on two of my Fieros for years. It's dirt-simple and it's more "clever" than high-tech. It seems to be reliable. Since it uses the existing headlight units, the response isn't any faster than the basline headights - so flashing the lamp was how the "winking" effect was created. If you're interested, you might PM me.

Was approached by a fellow on this Forum about going into business selling them, but didn't want to do it that way.

[Edited - added the blue part, which I had forgotten all about

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Report this Post08-03-2006 02:14 PM Click Here to See the Profile for trikerSend a Private Message to trikerDirect Link to This Post
I think this would do it using the factory switch. http://www.kussmaul.com/091-100-012.html It comes preset to 5 seconds but, can be adjusted for up to 28 seconds.

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