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WCF intake manifold.... by fiero_silva
Started on: 07-12-2006 09:08 PM
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Report this Post07-12-2006 09:08 PM Click Here to See the Profile for fiero_silvaSend a Private Message to fiero_silvaDirect Link to This Post
Who has the WCF intake manifold for their 2.8-3.4? Just wondering if you guys are using (or even need) the PowerLink additional injection computer for added fuel on a relatively stock motor?

If it is needed, where did you guys tap off of the fuel rail to get a fuel sypply for the 7th injector?
Also, does anyone have the wireing diagram for the fuel computer or any install pics?
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Report this Post07-12-2006 09:13 PM Click Here to See the Profile for fiero_silvaSend a Private Message to fiero_silvaDirect Link to This Post
Also, if need be would a set of TDC injectors work instead of the stockers to make up for the additional air this intake brings in?

+s for quick help! I want to put this thing on tonight

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Report this Post07-12-2006 10:33 PM Click Here to See the Profile for OversteerSend a Private Message to OversteerDirect Link to This Post
I think running it stock should be fine. The Trueleo is a more open design and requires nothing to operate on a stock engine. Larger injectors might help but you would need some tuning to make it all work properly. I would just try it stock and see what ya think from there, it may need nothing.

Good luck and post some info if ya can.

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Report this Post07-13-2006 12:24 AM Click Here to See the Profile for fiero_silvaSend a Private Message to fiero_silvaDirect Link to This Post
Well, I got it on tonight... Got all the vacuum hoses hooked up (or so I thought)... anyways, 3700rpm idle, so I'll have to look at it Friday (work and school tomorow).....
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Report this Post07-13-2006 08:28 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Fiero_FreakSend a Private Message to Fiero_FreakDirect Link to This Post
Vaccum leak?

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Report this Post07-13-2006 09:15 AM Click Here to See the Profile for PyrthianSend a Private Message to PyrthianDirect Link to This Post
the stock (15#) will be fine on a 2.8, or even a 3.1.
for a 3.4, then I'd go for the TDC injectors (17#) - but, the stock (15#) could it
the 15# injectors can goto around 160 HP within their regular duty cycle

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Report this Post07-13-2006 10:03 AM Click Here to See the Profile for fiero_silvaSend a Private Message to fiero_silvaDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by Fiero_Freak:

Vaccum leak?



Yah, I figgured it out last night in my sleep

I forgot to extend the large diameter vacuum line that connects to the stock TB up to the top of the new TB The thing is like 1/2" ID, so that could probably do it... lol
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Report this Post07-13-2006 10:06 AM Click Here to See the Profile for fiero_silvaSend a Private Message to fiero_silvaDirect Link to This Post

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Originally posted by Pyrthian:

the stock (15#) will be fine on a 2.8, or even a 3.1.
for a 3.4, then I'd go for the TDC injectors (17#) - but, the stock (15#) could it
the 15# injectors can goto around 160 HP within their regular duty cycle


Yah, I was just wondering because on their site I think WCF recommends that even on a stock motor that people upgrade and add the 7th injector setup....

I also heard word of it causing the motor to lean out at high RPM, should I be worried about anything like that? Or just bolt on the intake, extend a few vacuum lines and giver with no worries?

+s out to everybody in the thread so far

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Report this Post07-13-2006 10:09 AM Click Here to See the Profile for PyrthianSend a Private Message to PyrthianDirect Link to This Post
well, what motor ya got & what mods ya got? hard to answer otherwise.
not gonna assume a stock 2.8, with no other mods.
much of the lean in high RPM is due to the ECM chip, not the injectors.
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Report this Post07-13-2006 10:14 AM Click Here to See the Profile for fiero_silvaSend a Private Message to fiero_silvaDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by Pyrthian:

well, what motor ya got & what mods ya got? hard to answer otherwise.
not gonna assume a stock 2.8, with no other mods.
much of the lean in high RPM is due to the ECM chip, not the injectors.


Basically stock 2.8 used for autocross. Minimal mods for classing at auto-x. Currently only has a bit of ignition stuff and a cold air intake. The new manifold is just for a bit more high rpm power at auto-x when I need it on a long straight or somthing topping out a gear. I plan to port the exhaust manifolds soon.

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Report this Post07-13-2006 10:33 AM Click Here to See the Profile for PyrthianSend a Private Message to PyrthianDirect Link to This Post
well, get a chip made. the stock programming sucks in the upper R's
other than that, you existing injectors will do fine.
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Report this Post07-13-2006 11:45 AM Click Here to See the Profile for fiero_silvaSend a Private Message to fiero_silvaDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by Pyrthian:

well, get a chip made. the stock programming sucks in the upper R's
other than that, you existing injectors will do fine.


Is that necessairy for the engine to run safely with the intake, or is that just for a bit more performance?
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Report this Post07-13-2006 12:20 PM Click Here to See the Profile for PyrthianSend a Private Message to PyrthianDirect Link to This Post
both. but, I dont know enough about the ECM & chips to answer completely.....
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Report this Post07-13-2006 08:39 PM Click Here to See the Profile for LilchiefSend a Private Message to LilchiefDirect Link to This Post
Forget the seventh injector. Get a new chip made. It's not that hard if you got a laptop to log your data and send it to someone. Darth made one for me or should I say six, we about got it right. And don't drive it unless you are in the tuning mode for a new chip. If you drive it much, you could damage the motor.

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Report this Post07-13-2006 10:47 PM Click Here to See the Profile for fiero_silvaSend a Private Message to fiero_silvaDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by Lilchief:

Forget the seventh injector. Get a new chip made. It's not that hard if you got a laptop to log your data and send it to someone. Darth made one for me or should I say six, we about got it right. And don't drive it unless you are in the tuning mode for a new chip. If you drive it much, you could damage the motor.



It won't be driving any time soon, I've broken two trans mounts.....
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Report this Post07-14-2006 08:43 AM Click Here to See the Profile for PyrthianSend a Private Message to PyrthianDirect Link to This Post
dont worry about the data logging - Darth can do a good chip just by description of your mods.
and, dyno run w/wide band O2 is MUCH better than logged data
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