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Will 215/70/15's fit? by 865spd
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Report this Post12-15-2005 04:57 PM Click Here to See the Profile for 865spdClick Here to visit 865spd's HomePageSend a Private Message to 865spdDirect Link to This Post
I have a pair of studded snow tires in 215/70/15 and im wondering if i can fit them on the back of my Fiero. They seem to be quite a bit taller and a little bit wider. Has anyone done this or could it be done?
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Report this Post12-15-2005 05:18 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Indiana_resto_guySend a Private Message to Indiana_resto_guyDirect Link to This Post
Fit well.
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Report this Post12-15-2005 05:29 PM Click Here to See the Profile for 865spdClick Here to visit 865spd's HomePageSend a Private Message to 865spdDirect Link to This Post
The guy at the tire place told me they wouldn't fit because they are too tall. I still think they would because i have soo much wheel well gap being stock and all. Anybody else?

http://www.fieroshop.com.au/tyrecalculator/ Heres a little somthing

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Report this Post12-15-2005 06:05 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Joseph UpsonSend a Private Message to Joseph UpsonDirect Link to This Post
They will probably fit but be very close not to mention turn your car into an SUV, and make it unstable in turns with the considerable increase in side wall height. It will lean or feel a little wiggly but ride softer. When you are changing tire sizes it's best to do so in a ratio manner relative to stock. For every 10 point increment you increase the width from 215, you decrease the aspect ratio by 5 from 60, for example 225/ 55 15 if there were such a size it would be about the same height as the 215/60 15 but nearly a 1/4 of an inch wider.
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Report this Post12-15-2005 06:20 PM Click Here to See the Profile for 865spdClick Here to visit 865spd's HomePageSend a Private Message to 865spdDirect Link to This Post
Im not concerned about it handling wierd i just know that they will be alot better in ice and snow then my bald Z rated pirellis.
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Report this Post12-15-2005 06:49 PM Click Here to See the Profile for 30+mpgSend a Private Message to 30+mpgDirect Link to This Post
New 235/60-15's

Rear only
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Report this Post12-15-2005 06:59 PM Click Here to See the Profile for 865spdClick Here to visit 865spd's HomePageSend a Private Message to 865spdDirect Link to This Post
soo does that mean they will fit? I don't want to have them mounted then have them not fit.
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Report this Post12-15-2005 07:02 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Joseph UpsonSend a Private Message to Joseph UpsonDirect Link to This Post
The 215/70 will be a little taller than the 235/60, I think the fender well liner on the front is where you might run into a clearance problem and I agree they will certainly serve you better in the snow, you will also need to make sure that there will not be any interference body parts when turning the front wheels

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Report this Post12-15-2005 07:19 PM Click Here to See the Profile for 865spdClick Here to visit 865spd's HomePageSend a Private Message to 865spdDirect Link to This Post
I only have two and im puting them on the rear, thats why im almost sure they will fit because i know i have plenty of room back there. The guy at the tire place didn't think they would fit on a Fiero, but im assuming he hasn't examined a Fiero that closely because i kno wthere is quite a fit of room under there. Do you think i should go ahead and have them mounted?
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Report this Post12-15-2005 07:54 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Capt FieroClick Here to visit Capt Fiero's HomePageSend a Private Message to Capt FieroDirect Link to This Post
If you are stock height and do not the "wings" on the base of the struts they will fit. Total height is 26.8" and I put a 26.5" on a car that was lowered 2".

I had 225/60/16's on the back of my car, and your tires are 215/70/15 which is pretty close to the same.

What I mean by wings is at the base of the strut, some have a large metal guard. Some do not. Mine do not, but I have seen it interfere with other tire combo's on other Fieros.

Your best bet is go down, have one tire mounted and have them check the fit.

Here are the bit tires 225/50/16 front, and 225/60/16 rear.


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Report this Post12-15-2005 08:12 PM Click Here to See the Profile for 865spdClick Here to visit 865spd's HomePageSend a Private Message to 865spdDirect Link to This Post
Thanks, i don't have any wings on the base of my strut, i think im just going to have them mounted and see if they work or not. it see to have enough room, the only thing that it might hit is the first coil on the rear springs but i'd have to hit a pretty good bump to do that.
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Report this Post12-15-2005 08:30 PM Click Here to See the Profile for tharveySend a Private Message to tharveyDirect Link to This Post
The height or width will be approximately 26.85 inches as compared to 25.2 inches which the fiero calls for.

By installing these tires the top, left, and right will be filled in almost an inch. If you can take a 1 inch square stock and easily put it all around the outside of the tire then you should have no problems.

The speedo will also be off by 6.54% thus when your speedo states you are travelling at 60 mph you are actually travelling at just about 64 mph.

This is really close, I know other people have done it but snow or winter tires are usually larger then stock or street summer tires.

I agree that do 1 tire without balancing and see how they fit. It would be $5.00 well spent

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Report this Post12-15-2005 09:14 PM Click Here to See the Profile for 865spdClick Here to visit 865spd's HomePageSend a Private Message to 865spdDirect Link to This Post
I took just he rims down to them and the guy refused to put them on because of " liability reasons" He first said they were too big, and now he says they would make the car handle too badly, which im not looking for a handling tire (duh). So i guess they're not going on, im gonna have to spend more money and find someother tires. I don't know why the ass coudn't just mount the tires for me.
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Report this Post12-15-2005 09:22 PM Click Here to See the Profile for fierce_gtSend a Private Message to fierce_gtDirect Link to This Post
winter tires can be a pretty sketchy subject. many respectable shops will refuse to do anything that could make the vehicle dangerous. i've been a couple places that by policy will not install tires that are different sizes front and rear. however if you take them the wheels and say mount these tires please they can do it, because they have no way of knowing what vehicle they would go on, and therefore have no liability. if you really want to do it, that's the way.
but you also gotta think about how dangerous it might be if they won't take your money. it SHOULD be ok, but it's definately not recommended.
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Report this Post12-15-2005 11:17 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Joseph UpsonSend a Private Message to Joseph UpsonDirect Link to This Post
Unfortunately that's how things are, businesses have a lot to be concerned about regarding liability since less and less responsibility is being required by law of the individual, even without the vehicle present the service providers knowledge coupled with the failure to inquire can still put them at risk since nothing is preventing one from asking. Hey McDonalds got sued because someone couldn't hold there coffee and drive at the same time.
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Report this Post12-16-2005 08:06 PM Click Here to See the Profile for 30+mpgSend a Private Message to 30+mpgDirect Link to This Post
 
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865spd:I took just he rims down to them and the guy refused to put them on because of " liability reasons" He first said they were too big, and now he says they would make the car handle too badly, which im not looking for a handling tire (duh). So i guess they're not going on, im gonna have to spend more money and find someother tires. I don't know why the ass coudn't just mount the tires for me.

Tri does mean 3? Sooo, there's only one tire place in the "3" city area?

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Report this Post12-16-2005 11:34 PM Click Here to See the Profile for HellYesSend a Private Message to HellYesDirect Link to This Post
I just had Kumo 205/60/16's mounted on my prime 3 spokes that look just like the ones pictured, except they are silver, not pollished. The size sounds funny, but they are only .400 bigger than stock diameter. Ride height difference less than 1/4 ". They will fill out the wheel wells nicely when I drop it down an inch or so.
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Report this Post12-17-2005 03:30 AM Click Here to See the Profile for 865spdClick Here to visit 865spd's HomePageSend a Private Message to 865spdDirect Link to This Post
Yeah there are other tire places i just didn't feel like dealing with anyone else that night, plus everywhere else was way busy. Im still thinking weather i should put them on or not. I kinda want to just to prove to that prick that they'll fit, but i might be able to find some cheap ones in the paper.
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Report this Post12-17-2005 09:46 AM Click Here to See the Profile for 30+mpgSend a Private Message to 30+mpgDirect Link to This Post
 
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30+mpg:New 235/60-15's

Rear only

They are 26.1" OD
215/70-15 26.8" OD That's .7" taller and .35 larger radius.

Look at the photo. There's more than 3/8" clearance around the tire. The tightest point (rear edge of rocker panel) is 2.56" away from the tire. Also a 70 series tire is narrower than a 60 seires.

So will it fit? DuHH You could fit 255/70-15's!

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