HI all,

Ok so one of my gears went out on the motor for my headlite, on the driver's side...No bigge right, just get a kit from Rodney....Well I do that, and place part of the control arm that raises and lowers the motor too far forward.... Get that placed just fine, and this is where the fun begins.....

First the right headlite goes down when the left one goes up.....Both headlites turn on the actual light when raised...Then I wait awhile, smoked a cig, and talkin with my bro...20 mins go by... I get in the car to try it again, and the motor for the right headlite turns on all by it's self while the left one just stays closed.....OK!!!!! So now the right headlite motor is stuck in the up position, and the motor is wanting to move, to close I guess..lol....BUT, when I turn the lights on the left one operates just fine, while the right one stays in the up postion, but, the light turns on, and off when you shut off the headlites....BUT... The motor is still wanting to move, you can hear it turn on then off, so on and so forth, no gears moving at all, it just, i think, want to close like it should...... SO I dissconect the battery and this is where I am at right now....QUIT while your ahead and tackle it tomorrow.....

So guys this is my first written lengthly post, how am I doin now guys!!??? OH!!! Since I said help, any clues as to what is going on?? I am 99% sure that everything is wired right....Not that hard to wire really, being there are only 3 wires to connect, not counting the wire for the headlite to turn the lite on........Any thoughts, any at all.......Even constructive ones are warrented...hehehehehe....

Sorry, can't help ya, but I do have the same peoblem. Installed a new motor that was included when I bought the car, and after putting on that arm you mentioned backwards, and then finally getting it right, the new motor seems to turn but wont move the arm or lift the light assembly. It is a brand new motor, not a used or rebuilt so I was surprised it did that. Solved the problem....disconnected the power wires and wound them up manually and keep them that way. No biggie since I am planning on the flushmounts anyway.

Simple demonic posession. Get a catholic mechanic and you'll be fine. "The power of Christ compels you! The power of Christ compels you!"

quote Originally posted by FieroGT42: Simple demonic posession. Get a catholic mechanic and you'll be fine. "The power of Christ compels you! The power of Christ compels you!"

Hi all,

Ohhhhhhh lordy, there out tonite aren't they.......hehehehehe.... Oh yeah, LMAO.........

My did pretty much the same thing, motor would stay on etc. The end-of cycle switch or whatever, was and still is NG. Rod's kit won't fix it, I talked to him. Rather than spend something like $100+ for a whole new unit, I just spliced in a toggle to the plus lead for motor. When I turn the lights on, I hit the switch and then shut it off when the lamp is fully up and do the same when I shut them off and it's down. Eventually I'll get around to to replacing the whole driver's side unit, but a $2 fix of sorts did the trick. Actually, I did it that way because I plan on modifing both headlites to use a pair of the smaller twin lamp units on each side. I'll have to modify the unit's so the lids only come up a few inches. With that in mind, I thought I'd just use the switch for now. I'm an older dude and four headlites seems like a much better way for my old eyes to see where I'm going at night.

It was kinda hard to decipher what your problems are by your discription.
But it sounds like you are having two problems.

First. Your right motor is running backwards

You turn the headlight switch ON and the right side stays down.
You turn the headlight switch OFF and the right side comes up.
If this is correct you have this magnet in backwards.

notice the blue dot on the magnet in the second pic.

In the first pic you can barely see that it’s a bit lighter than the rest of the magnet.
That’s where the blob of white silicone in the plastic case was glued to it.

Hi all,

Just pulled apart the motor this morning, and the magnet was placed in correctly, blob on blob of silacone.....I think I might of wired the motor backwards now, well see when I put it all back together......

quote Originally posted by pavo_roddy: Just pulled apart the motor this morning, and the magnet was placed in correctly, blob on blob of silacone.....

It's still possible you got it 180* off though, even though it was "right side down".

HI all,

YEAH!!! It is still going backwards, so I am gonna try and place the magnet the other direction now......THANX for all your input guys.......lol......

From BuddyCraigg-in another thread:

quote if the knob spins with an horrible grinding noise, then you are going to need a new gear. if the knob just twitches and you hear a dull click every so often, then the limit switches are not working

I believe I read somewhere else that something called the "Sanderson Effect" can cause this, if the rubber grommet just under the knob is out of place. It won't let the assy move down to engage the limit switch properly.
https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Archives/Archive-000001/HTML/20050119-2-045256-3.html

[This message has been edited by maryjane (edited 11-13-2005).]

quote Originally posted by maryjane: called the "Sanderson Effect"

he's gonna love me for that one.

Hi all,

Why will I be lovin you for this??

Well the problem sits as of now: The right headlight won't raise at all, the motor wants to move all on its own when there is power to the car...The light no longer wants to move backwards.....The motor will raise and lower the headlight assembly all on manual, I have a spare motor, I think next weekend I'll try and swap this in and see if it will work........One question though, should I swap the rodney gear into the spare motor, since the assembly area will be opened, or should I just leave it alone for now....lol........OHHHHHHHH!!!!! What a world for those who want to keep older cars....lol...

This is what I don't get, even though it would move backwards, it would move, now that the motor magnet is corrected it doesn't want to move at all.....So after six and a half hours to get to this point, I just called it quits for now....

quote Originally posted by pavo_roddy: Why will I be lovin you for this??

sanderson is a person on the forum.
i was talking about him

Im just guessing here but is there any possiblity it could be a relay problem? Did you try switching them and then observed if there was any change?

Kit (86 GT)

HI all,

What do you mean about switching them?? At this point guys I am gonna trying using another motor I have on hand and hope that that works for me.........