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Throttle Body by fieroman22
Started on: 10-29-2005 05:02 PM
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Report this Post10-29-2005 05:02 PM Click Here to See the Profile for fieroman22Send a Private Message to fieroman22Direct Link to This Post
I'm looking at buying the trueleo intake of course, and with that you can get whatever tb you want for him to customize it to. However I was wondering what kind of tb's are out there that you can use with the stock tps and coolant lines? Is there a 62mm? I''d like to do roughly a 75mm so I can keep 3" tubing from air intake to tb. Is there any tbs out there besides the stock one, and not just ported ones?
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Report this Post10-29-2005 07:28 PM Click Here to See the Profile for AaronZ34Click Here to visit AaronZ34's HomePageSend a Private Message to AaronZ34Direct Link to This Post
I don't think there is a 2.8 out there that needs a 75mm throttle body.

The 1996-1997 3.4 DOHC had a 64mm unit, and the 91-95 3.4 DOHC had a 62mm TB, so you could try one of those, that'd work good with a highly modded 2.8 or 3.4 OHV.

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Report this Post10-29-2005 08:05 PM Click Here to See the Profile for coinballSend a Private Message to coinballDirect Link to This Post
the 91-95 TDC TB is integrated into the upper plenum...

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Originally posted by coinball:

the 91-95 TDC TB is integrated into the upper plenum...

And?

So cut it and weld it to a flange. From WCF, a 91-95 62mm throttle body on a 2.8l plenum, very clean setup.


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Report this Post10-30-2005 10:02 AM Click Here to See the Profile for PyrthianSend a Private Message to PyrthianDirect Link to This Post
careful with the sizing. small increases in diameter make for pretty big increases in volume. like they mention above, the 3.4 DOHC throttle body would be the biggest you'd wanna go. there is no bigger breathing 60*V6 than that.
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Report this Post10-30-2005 10:45 AM Click Here to See the Profile for goatnipples2002Click Here to visit goatnipples2002's HomePageSend a Private Message to goatnipples2002Direct Link to This Post
will a 3400 TB bolt up to a stock fiero intake? Are there any TB that will bolt up and work on a stock fiero intake?

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Report this Post10-30-2005 03:57 PM Click Here to See the Profile for fieroman22Send a Private Message to fieroman22Direct Link to This Post
yeah what he said that was my question, any that arent bored out that is?
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Report this Post10-30-2005 09:43 PM Click Here to See the Profile for LilchiefSend a Private Message to LilchiefDirect Link to This Post
I've got a trueleo intake with a 86 GN TB off a 3.8 turbo, it measures 59mm and the tps and aic are direct plug ins. The sizing is about perfect for my 3.4. You have to do some fabing for the linkage since the butter fly is oppisite of a fiero and it doesn't have any cooling lines. I've got an intake like Aaronz34 posted if you want one, I'll sell at a good price

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Originally posted by AaronZ34:


And?

So cut it and weld it to a flange. From WCF, a 91-95 62mm throttle body on a 2.8l plenum, very clean setup.


Now that I like, different from the original yet the same. Nice tig job too. Did you do that one? and whats the inside of the top of the intake like, didi you change anything other than the tube?

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Report this Post10-30-2005 10:04 PM Click Here to See the Profile for LilchiefSend a Private Message to LilchiefDirect Link to This Post
No I bought one from WCF and you have to change the plug ins. It has a seventh injector for fuel enrichment with a controller. I have everything if anyones enterested. Would have to make something for cruise control too

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Report this Post10-30-2005 11:51 PM Click Here to See the Profile for AaronZ34Click Here to visit AaronZ34's HomePageSend a Private Message to AaronZ34Direct Link to This Post
What he said, it is from WCF.
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Report this Post10-31-2005 06:59 AM Click Here to See the Profile for 84fiero123Send a Private Message to 84fiero123Direct Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by AaronZ34:

What he said, it is from WCF.

OK what is WCF?
Web site?
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West Coast Fieros

don't have the lin off hand try google

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Report this Post10-31-2005 09:42 AM Click Here to See the Profile for vafierroClick Here to visit vafierro's HomePageSend a Private Message to vafierroDirect Link to This Post
Lilchief: I'd be interested in your old setup. Looking to get rid of it? email me. chris@studiotwilight.com
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Report this Post10-31-2005 09:51 AM Click Here to See the Profile for goatnipples2002Click Here to visit goatnipples2002's HomePageSend a Private Message to goatnipples2002Direct Link to This Post
Those intakes are still ineffiecient because the runners aren't any better flowing.
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Report this Post10-31-2005 11:12 AM Click Here to See the Profile for AaronZ34Click Here to visit AaronZ34's HomePageSend a Private Message to AaronZ34Direct Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by goatnipples2002:

Those intakes are still ineffiecient because the runners aren't any better flowing.

I never said they weren't, but they help. That is probably one of the best, and cheapest ways to get good power from the intake side of things. That can be done for under $100, with good results. Every single intake manifold out there is innefficient, even a tuned independant throttle body setup like my own. It is as close to perfect as I can get, but still not perfect.

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Originally posted by goatnipples2002:

Those intakes are still ineffiecient because the runners aren't any better flowing.

the biggest restriction in a stock fieros intake is the neck just behind the TB

that mod provides a bigger TB, a superior flowing neck, and an increase in plenum volume

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Report this Post10-31-2005 08:47 PM Click Here to See the Profile for LilchiefSend a Private Message to LilchiefDirect Link to This Post
vafierro, e-mail sent

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