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caliper piston metal difference by markviiisvt4
Started on: 07-09-2005 10:05 AM
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Report this Post07-09-2005 10:05 AM Click Here to See the Profile for markviiisvt4Click Here to visit markviiisvt4's HomePageSend a Private Message to markviiisvt4Direct Link to This Post
I had a caliper lock up last night effectively killing one of my center caps, but any way called my local auto zone for a new one and they told me there are two diffrent piston options. One is the stock metle piston the other was a steel piston. any one know any thing about this

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Report this Post07-09-2005 10:20 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Dennis LaGruaSend a Private Message to Dennis LaGruaDirect Link to This Post
I believe that the options are metal or fiber caliper pistons. I prefer metal as they work and they are stronger

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Report this Post07-09-2005 10:42 AM Click Here to See the Profile for spark1Send a Private Message to spark1Direct Link to This Post
Raybestos® gives you three choices on the 88 piston:

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Report this Post07-10-2005 01:09 AM Click Here to See the Profile for WhuffoClick Here to visit Whuffo's HomePageSend a Private Message to WhuffoDirect Link to This Post
Some of us believe the phenolic pistons are the best choice. They don't transmit as much heat from the pads to the brake fluid, and they're lighter, reducing unsprung weight and improving handling a bit.
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Report this Post07-10-2005 01:45 PM Click Here to See the Profile for markviiisvt4Click Here to visit markviiisvt4's HomePageSend a Private Message to markviiisvt4Direct Link to This Post
awsome thanks for the information guys i might just go with the grand am set up but i like seeing the alloy calipers in there

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Originally posted by Whuffo:

Some of us believe the phenolic pistons are the best choice.

I have heard that the phenolic pistons will swell up if the car sits for a long time, and cause the calipers to lock.
I don't know for sure though. Might be interesting to research this.

I'm not disputing your point regarding heat transfer, though. Makes good sense.

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Report this Post07-10-2005 04:13 PM Click Here to See the Profile for ElectrathonClick Here to visit Electrathon's HomePageSend a Private Message to ElectrathonDirect Link to This Post
Basicly, phenalic pistons are far supperior in stopping brake fade. They act as an insulating layer to protect the brake fluid from heat. They also have a shorter life span than the steel pistons.

Kind of a trade off, safer driving and the pistons will need to be replaced every 5 years or so, or loss of stopping ability and the pistons will last 10 years plus.

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Report this Post07-10-2005 05:01 PM Click Here to See the Profile for ka4nkfSend a Private Message to ka4nkfDirect Link to This Post
I would not want the phenolic piston's in the rear because of the e-brake actuator. It will strip quicker.
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Report this Post07-10-2005 05:32 PM Click Here to See the Profile for ElectrathonClick Here to visit Electrathon's HomePageSend a Private Message to ElectrathonDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by ka4nkf:

I would not want the phenolic piston's in the rear because of the e-brake actuator. It will strip quicker.
Don

The threads where the actuator goes into the piston are not phenalic, there is an insert in it. Remember, the inside of the piston ratchets, on both style pistons. Both pistons have inserts.

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Report this Post07-10-2005 05:45 PM Click Here to See the Profile for ka4nkfSend a Private Message to ka4nkfDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by Electrathon:


The threads where the actuator goes into the piston are not phenalic, there is an insert in it. Remember, the inside of the piston ratchets, on both style pistons. Both pistons have inserts.

Thanks for that info. I have the new re-call kit but have not installed it yet. It has the metal piston's and they are heavy.
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Report this Post07-10-2005 10:02 PM Click Here to See the Profile for ElectrathonClick Here to visit Electrathon's HomePageSend a Private Message to ElectrathonDirect Link to This Post
Personally, I prefer the metal pistons because I am very frugal and want things to last forever. If I was racing or driving in an agressive manor, I would go for the phenalic ones.
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