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Tire Size for 17" rims? by TA6SPD
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Report this Post12-25-2004 10:18 AM Click Here to See the Profile for TA6SPDSend a Private Message to TA6SPDDirect Link to This Post
What tire sizes are recommended for 17" rims on a 85 GT?
I have seen 215/45/17 front and 225/45 rear is this correct?
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Report this Post12-25-2004 11:13 AM Click Here to See the Profile for yellowstoneSend a Private Message to yellowstoneDirect Link to This Post
This is my setup:

8x17 DEZENT T wheels with front 215/45R17 and rear 235/40R17 TOYO PROXES T1-S

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Report this Post12-25-2004 12:01 PM Click Here to See the Profile for LT188GTSend a Private Message to LT188GTDirect Link to This Post
I run 235/45 at all four.
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Originally posted by TA6SPD:
What tire sizes are recommended for 17" rims on a 85 GT?
I have seen 215/45/17 front and 225/45 rear is this correct?

What you have chosen should be a good combination. Might consider a 235 rear. Might also consider a 245-40 on the rear. As I recall the diameter of the original tire (215/60/15) was 25.2"

See: http://www.kumhousa.com/Products/PtnDetails.asp?mainCatID=1&PtnID=KU-15

There was an interesting thread about a year ago, in which one contributor opined that the width of the rear tire should be determined by the front - rear balance of the vehicle. Thus, on a Fiero, a tire that is 10 - 20 percent wider than the front will result in better handling.

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Originally posted by yellowstone:

This is my setup:

8x17 DEZENT T wheels with front 215/45R17 and rear 235/40R17 TOYO PROXES T1-S

Similar with me except Yokohamas ES100 tires 215/45 & 235/45 on my '88GT those are on 17x7 and 17x8 rims.

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Report this Post12-25-2004 06:52 PM Click Here to See the Profile for TA6SPDSend a Private Message to TA6SPDDirect Link to This Post
I have picked out a set of Falken Torque 5 in gun metal gray for rims. They are 17x7 and only have 5 lug hole. I do'nt like the universal wheels. The tires I'm looking at are Toyo proxes 4. They have a agressive tread patern, but are all season tires. Thanks for the responces. If anyone else have a good working setup please post it. Tires and rims are not cheap.
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Mine uses 215/45-17 on the front and 235/45-17 on the rear. Front rims are 7" and rears are 8" wide.

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What is the offset on the 7" front and 8" back rims? Are they the same offset?
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Report this Post12-26-2004 01:28 PM Click Here to See the Profile for RickNSend a Private Message to RickNDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by TA6SPD:

What is the offset on the 7" front and 8" back rims? Are they the same offset?

On mine the offset is 40mm front and rear.

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Report this Post12-26-2004 07:31 PM Click Here to See the Profile for GSXRBOBBYClick Here to visit GSXRBOBBY's HomePageSend a Private Message to GSXRBOBBYDirect Link to This Post
We the plus is the pre88 don't have to be so odd like the 88's. I think a 40mm or 42mm offset would be fine?

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Report this Post12-26-2004 09:54 PM Click Here to See the Profile for TA6SPDSend a Private Message to TA6SPDDirect Link to This Post
Just trying to get as much info before buying.
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Report this Post12-26-2004 10:16 PM Click Here to See the Profile for RaydarSend a Private Message to RaydarDirect Link to This Post
88s are goofy. I used a 48mm offset on the front of mine, but if I had a pre 88 I would probably look for something between 35 and 42mm for a 7" rim. The rear track width is the same on all years. I used a 35mm offset on the rear of mine, and it works just fine.
One thing to keep in mind is that the more offset the fronts have (tucking the wheel in more), the lighter the steering will feel.

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Report this Post12-26-2004 11:30 PM Click Here to See the Profile for SkybaxSend a Private Message to SkybaxDirect Link to This Post
 
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Just trying to get as much info before buying.

I'd be carefull... people are throwing numbers at you..... but some are talking about 88 suspensions which are different. The 88's have more clearance in the rear.

17x7 rim with 40mm offset bearly clears the rear strut on 84-87. A 17x8 with 40mm offset mentioned eariler in the thread on an 84-87 might hit the strut depending on several factors.

 
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Tires and rims are not cheap.

I don't know how much of your hard earned money your spending, and not sure what your going for, but here is my suggestion. For those tire sizes you mentioned you don't need a 8" rim... a 7" rim would be a better fit for those sizes.

If you end up going with 17x7 keep your offset between 30 and 40mm. The closer to 30mm the better for the rear. (stock position) The closer to 40mm the better for the front. (helps reduce scrub radius) A 17x7 with 35mm offset is a very popular aftermarket wheel size and works great on an 84-87 being the happy medium.

Your 215/45/17 front and 225/45/17 rear selection is perfect...

You can use a 235 in the rear if you want but consider a few things..... 225 is the design rim width for a 7" rim, where 235 is not. Technicly the 225 is a better fit.

Also... The 235 is slightly higher than stock, where 225 is slightly lower. With it's slightly smaller diameter your final drive ratio would slightly improve. (not to mention it weighs less) Basicly 225 would make the car a little quicker than 235. But that's getting extremely technical because we are talking very small amounts. Both will throw the speedo off by 1-2 mph.

Good luck in whatever you decide.

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Report this Post12-27-2004 12:07 AM Click Here to See the Profile for RaydarSend a Private Message to RaydarDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by Skybax:

A 7" rim with 40mm offset bearly clears the strut on 84-87. A 17x8 with 40mm offset on 84-87 might hit the strut depending on several factors.

Good information. I didn't realize they were that close. Thanks. I don't mean to mis-inform.

 
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If you end up going with 17x7 keep your offset between 30 and 40mm. The closer to 30mm the better for the rear. (stock position) The closer to 40mm the better for the front. (helps reduce scrub radius) A 17x7 with 35mm offset is very popular aftermarket wheel size and will work great on an 84-87 being the happy medium.

I was going to suggest 35mm offsets. TSW recommends a 35mm offset for the Fiero, for the 17x7 Stings that I was going to buy.

 
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You can use a 235 in the rear if you want but consider a few things..... 225 is the design rim width for a 7" rim, where 235 is not. Technicly the 225 is a better fit.

Also... The 235 is also slightly higher than stock, where 225 is slightly lower.

The stock size that these are close to is the 215/60-15 that was original equipment on the 86-88 GT and the Formula.
IIRC, the stock tire size for an 85 GT is a 215/60-14. Quite a bit smaller. Your speedometer will be wrong by several MPH. It will read 2-3 MPH slower than you are traveling. The easiest way to remedy that is to replace the driven gear on the VSS. The correct one for the automatic is blue. I forget the number of teeth but can count them for you if you want to know, but I believe they are sold by color code.
This is *not* a big deal. It can be changed in a few minutes, leaning over the back of the car, without hardly getting your hands dirty.
I'm not sure about the 4 speed, but I hear that it's similar. You have to be careful that the driven gear doesn't fall into the tranny when you pull out the VSS, though.

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The stock size that these are close to is the 215/60-15 that was original equipment on the 86-88 GT and the Formula.
IIRC, the stock tire size for an 85 GT is a 215/60-14. Quite a bit smaller.

Good point, I was talking / thinking 86-87.

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im running 205/40/17 on the front with a 235/40/17 on the back and my speedo is only like 3% off

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Originally posted by TA6SPD:

What tire sizes are recommended for 17" rims on a 85 GT?
I have seen 215/45/17 front and 225/45 rear is this correct?

225/45/17's all around are also nice sincer you can then do a full rotation of the tires

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Report this Post12-27-2004 09:16 AM Click Here to See the Profile for TA6SPDSend a Private Message to TA6SPDDirect Link to This Post
Thanks to all. I'm sure others will also benifit from all of this information. The people at the tire stores only goes by the info that they have.
I'm going with
215/45/17 front on a 17x7 rim with a 35-40mm offset
225/45/17 rear on a 17x7 rim with a 35-40mm offset
This will keep everything close enough to stock and give better performance and looks.
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Originally posted by TA6SPD:

Thanks to all. I'm sure others will also benifit from all of this information. The people at the tire stores only goes by the info that they have.
I'm going with
215/45/17 front on a 17x7 rim with a 35-40mm offset
225/45/17 rear on a 17x7 rim with a 35-40mm offset
This will keep everything close enough to stock and give better performance and looks.

Waiting for a call back for these prices, if I don't hear from him I will call him back around noon.

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