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s10 head change by 1966mustang
Started on: 12-19-2004 09:42 PM
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Report this Post12-19-2004 09:42 PM Click Here to See the Profile for 1966mustangSend a Private Message to 1966mustangDirect Link to This Post
my question is will the head off my 85 fiero 2.5 fit onto my 88 chevy s10 2.5?
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Report this Post12-19-2004 11:52 PM Click Here to See the Profile for TaurusThugSend a Private Message to TaurusThugDirect Link to This Post
i would think so... someone will chime in and say something more concrete. IIRC they are the same motor. but then again it might not be because the S10 is RWD and i know that the S10 V6 is different from the Fiero V6

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Report this Post12-20-2004 10:44 AM Click Here to See the Profile for 1966mustangSend a Private Message to 1966mustangDirect Link to This Post
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Report this Post12-20-2004 05:41 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Arns85GTSend a Private Message to Arns85GTDirect Link to This Post
The only part I know of for the 2.5 engine is 12351904 which is used to replace 2.5 engines for both Chevrolet and Pontiac.

It appears that they are the same block, however, the valve sizes could be different. This is beyond my knowledge. In short, I expect it will do the job.

Try this website

http://www.gm-restorationparts.com/ewopg/OPGSITES/entry.asp

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Report this Post12-20-2004 06:10 PM Click Here to See the Profile for KentoSend a Private Message to KentoDirect Link to This Post
also check this site., has a lot of 2.5 info.

http://www.k12.nf.ca/gc/Staff/Teachers/Crummey/fiero/

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Report this Post12-20-2004 07:35 PM Click Here to See the Profile for theogreClick Here to visit theogre's HomePageSend a Private Message to theogreDirect Link to This Post
I believe the S10 pickup and blazer went to the DIS version of the engine in 87 like the cars. The distributor and DIS heads are different due to an intake change and use of 700 series TBI on the later units.

The heads may bolt up but the intakes don't interchage between heads.

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Report this Post12-20-2004 08:34 PM Click Here to See the Profile for JncomuttSend a Private Message to JncomuttDirect Link to This Post
While we're at it... Can I swap my 2.8 Fiero heads onto my 2.8 S10 TBI??
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Report this Post12-20-2004 10:24 PM Click Here to See the Profile for JazzManSend a Private Message to JazzManDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by Jncomutt:

While we're at it... Can I swap my 2.8 Fiero heads onto my 2.8 S10 TBI??

Yes, and they'll flow better, too, because of the larger valve sizes.

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Originally posted by theogre:

I believe the S10 pickup and blazer went to the DIS version of the engine in 87 like the cars. The distributor and DIS heads are different due to an intake change and use of 700 series TBI on the later units.

The heads may bolt up but the intakes don't interchage between heads.

wasn't the throttle body a larger bore too?

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Report this Post12-21-2004 09:57 AM Click Here to See the Profile for 1966mustangSend a Private Message to 1966mustangDirect Link to This Post
ok well if i swap the whole head will the exhaust manifold bolt up and can i just leave the fiero intake on it and im not positive but the plug in on the tbi looks the same as the fiero so if it will plug up will it work?
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Report this Post12-21-2004 03:26 PM Click Here to See the Profile for m0sh_manSend a Private Message to m0sh_manDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by Jncomutt:

While we're at it... Can I swap my 2.8 Fiero heads onto my 2.8 S10 TBI??

yep, its like bolting on 20HP and 20ft/lbs (plus or minus 5-10HP)

its a GREAT upgrade for the small valve v6 heads.

i bought a 88 fiero coupe that the owner rebuilt the entire motor before i got the car, but he used the head from a 85 celebrity, once rebuilt he couldnt figure out why the car ran like ass, missed, idle would jump up to redline all the time, all kindsa stuff, well it turned out that the intake was wrong for the head and it was only running properly on ONE cylinder, the others had big gaps in the gasket for them on the intake side, needless to say i didnt figure it out until after i swapped a 3.4L v6 in, but had i known that was the only problem, i may have kept the 4cyl in the car for a bit longer.

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Report this Post12-21-2004 04:50 PM Click Here to See the Profile for FastIndyFieroClick Here to visit FastIndyFiero's HomePageSend a Private Message to FastIndyFieroDirect Link to This Post
I believe that the S10 head uses a different head bolt pattern, i.e. the bolt closest to the water pump is farther inboard or outboard, can't remember which. Just something to watch out for.

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Report this Post12-21-2004 10:35 PM Click Here to See the Profile for JazzManSend a Private Message to JazzManDirect Link to This Post
All of the 2.8s use the same head bolt pattern. I bet the 2.5 head bolt is the same as well.

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Report this Post12-22-2004 12:45 PM Click Here to See the Profile for 862M4inCASend a Private Message to 862M4inCADirect Link to This Post
In my experience 86/87 was a changing point in the head design and intake manifold design. Had to replace the head on my 86 and grabed one off of an 87 celebrity (didn't know there was much difference at the time). Everything bolted up fine except the intake which was redigned and the intake passages were raised about 1/2". I suppose you could swap with a different intake manifold, but that would involve changing the throttle body as well as the wiring to the TBI. Personally if you just want a quick swap, I'd suggest sticking with an 87 or later head.
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Report this Post12-22-2004 05:46 PM Click Here to See the Profile for FastIndyFieroClick Here to visit FastIndyFiero's HomePageSend a Private Message to FastIndyFieroDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by JazzMan:

All of the 2.8s use the same head bolt pattern. I bet the 2.5 head bolt is the same as well.

JazzMan

Yes, I'm talking about the 2.5. There are definitely two different bolt patterns, however, because of the different water pump setup. I can't remember which S10's had the wide pattern and which had the narrow.

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