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Clutch Indesicion, Wich one should use? by DreXteR
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Hi, I had installed a 6 puk sprung clutch from clutchnet. Im very happy on how it worked. Since I have to fix a problem with the flywheel I take all apart. Comon sense is to replace the clutch now. But I intalled the previous one 6 monts ago. I order a new one because the rivets looked very close to the edge. I recieved the new clutch today and for my sorprse the space of the rivets regarding the puck surface is almost the same.

The only difference is that the used clutch looks like crystalized. See Pics:

See how it refletc the light in the used clutch

New left, ued right


My indesicion is since the clutch "meat" is relatively equal, should I intall the used one or use the new one since already is here?

Indesicions........

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Report this Post12-01-2004 05:51 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Arns85GTSend a Private Message to Arns85GTDirect Link to This Post
I'm no expert but I have been chosing a new one myself.

Essentially if you use the old one you don't have to machine your flywheel.

If you use the new one, you have to machine.

If the meat is the same, and it hasn't gone all blue from overheating, I'd re-install.

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Originally posted by Arns85GT:

I'm no expert but I have been chosing a new one myself.

Essentially if you use the old one you don't have to machine your flywheel.

If you use the new one, you have to machine.

If the meat is the same, and it hasn't gone all blue from overheating, I'd re-install.

Arn

I have an aluminym flywheel, resurface inst an option. But I can get another center section since they are replasable, but will keep costing money and im unemployed. More $$ is no good 4 now.

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Is the aluminum flywheel on a 2.8? I've been asking about that application but I don't know someone with the setup to get some idea of how well it works.

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Originally posted by Arns85GT:

Is the aluminum flywheel on a 2.8? I've been asking about that application but I don't know someone with the setup to get some idea of how well it works.

Arn


3.4DOHC and works like a charm. Its one of the best parts I bought. 8lbs instead of 18lbs (Im not sure). Any thing you can take out from the rotating mass worth many times more than reducing in normal weight. My car revs with demeted madness.

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Report this Post12-01-2004 08:21 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Arns85GTSend a Private Message to Arns85GTDirect Link to This Post
Did it do anything on your 1/4 mi times? or is this a 'seat of the pants' estimation?

The reason I ask is that I've been fooled before with mine feeling like it had more.

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I once read that taking 1 pound off the rotating mass was equal to taking 15 pounds off the non-rotating mass.

so 10 lbs off the flywheel would be like removing 150 lbs off the car.

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I havent go to the track, but beat a 350z that runs 13.7 in the 1/4 mile(he said it to me). Also I have beat 2003 Mustang mach 1 they have 305hp/320tq(wasnt an official race, more like a big ego dwestroyed), didnt win by much was a 2nd gerar pull. We started my front bumper in his door and ended his front bumper in my door. HEheeh. I bet he now will have more respect to Fieros. LOL


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Edited by wrong 1/4 mile time.

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Originally posted by collinwestphal:

I once read that taking 1 pound off the rotating mass was equal to taking 15 pounds off the non-rotating mass.

so 10 lbs off the flywheel would be like removing 150 lbs off the car.

Thats the theroy. Also aplies to light wheels. Less rotating mass, more efficient acceletation.


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Ok, back to the question.

Its the used cristalized?? Can be used??

Should I use the new one?

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if it felt good when you took it apart it should be just fine. If it were me and it worked good before then I would reuse it.
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Originally posted by cptsnoopy:

if it felt good when you took it apart it should be just fine. If it were me and it worked good before then I would reuse it.

What you mean by felt?

The surface of the clutch its like smooth instead of poors like the new one. Could be a normal effect of use. Thats why Im asking.

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Need a good answer guys. I want to install it tomorrow.

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Report this Post12-01-2004 11:36 PM Click Here to See the Profile for FierowreckerClick Here to visit Fierowrecker's HomePageSend a Private Message to FierowreckerDirect Link to This Post
Drex,
Why did you need to pull it apart?

The term is polished, not crystalized...
If it wasn't slipping when ya pulled it apart, it shouldn't when ya put it back...
However, if your pressure plate and flywheel are burnt, cracked or very poor looking, you may want to change it now, with a new pressure plate and surfaced flywheel...

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Originally posted by DreXteR:


What you mean by felt?

The surface of the clutch its like smooth instead of poors like the new one. Could be a normal effect of use. Thats why Im asking.

Thanx
DreX


sorry about that, I meant did it chatter, did it feel like it was slipping? If it felt as if it was working as well as it ever has then why not use it some more? I am assuming that the flywheel problem was with the ring gear?

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Report this Post12-02-2004 12:59 AM Click Here to See the Profile for DreXteRClick Here to visit DreXteR's HomePageSend a Private Message to DreXteRDirect Link to This Post
Im using an aluminum flywheel, the Idiot that design it decide to hold the outer steel ring(where the starter hook) to the flywheel with 6 tiniy bolts with washers. With the time the washers bent and the outer ring came loose making an awful noise. Like some bolt bouncing like a Lotto stuff. Thats why I had to pull it out.

To fix it I used 6 nuts and welded into the outer ring. Now NEVER will loose again.

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Welded to the flywheel? Aren't those balanced? Wonder if ti may cause now some vibration

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Sure it will not balanced(perfect) anymore. But will be fixed.

Anyway, after you install the clutch and pressureplate it wont be balanced(perfect) anymore.

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