I've been reading the threads on the merits and liabilities of Nitrous on a 2.8. I can't find any info on what it really costs to run a system from week to week. I'm sure this varies all over the map with the amount of foot-stomping, but I'm hoping I'll get a range of responses here.

(1) How much do you pay per week on average to feed the bottle? In other words, how expensive it this to maintain?

(2) What's a good source for refills?

(3) Please feel free to recommend a set up that you like (maker, model number, etc.)

Thanks.

quote Originally posted by Notorio: (1) How much do you pay per week on average to feed the bottle? In other words, how expensive it this to maintain? Thanks.

It all depends on how much you use it. Go to the track once a month or something and only use it there? Cheap. Use it all the time on the street? Expensive. I think it's about $40 to fill a 10 lbs bottle. Bump for ya so you can get some better answers than I can provide.

I've been thinking about nitrous also. but, from the responses I've seen in other "I'm thinking about NOS" threads, it looks like just jump in and get it. get a wet kit, 50 or less nozzle/jet whatever, slap it on, and start learning WTF is going on. the kits seem cheap enough. then theres the goodies for later, the bottle warmers, remote openers & different triggering systems. find a club in your area, or the drag strip in your area, and talk to people. most will gladly brag about their setup - untill you become compitition.

It cost about $50 to fill the bottle and and one bottle last some where around a minute I beleive.

The more you use it the more expensive it will be, be cause you are going to blow that 2.8. The bottle is addictive!

If you have a new motor you may be safer, but continued use is not going to yeild good results.

quote Originally posted by Black-Azz-GT: It cost about $50 to fill the bottle and and one bottle last some where around a minute I beleive.

Not to pick apart your statement, but I think for ever 25 shot increase it is 1lb/min. So a 50 shot is 2lb/min, making a 10 lbs bottle last you about 5 minutes. I may be wrong though. (Can you beleive I did all that math in my head without the assistance of any Instruments of Texas?)

quote Originally posted by Unsafe At Any Speed: Not to pick apart your statement, but I think for ever 25 shot increase it is 1lb/min. So a 50 shot is 2lb/min, making a 10 lbs bottle last you about 5 minutes. I may be wrong though. (Can you beleive I did all that math in my head without the assistance of any Instruments of Texas?)

either way it starts to add up fast..

At a 75 shot level 10lbs will last (average) of 3 minutes of continious usage. Around here it is $40 to fill the bottle. So if you run a 14 second quarter it's about 12 or so runs which would be $3.25 a run. If you run a larger shot it will cost more and less if you run a small shot. This has been my experience and your results may vary .........Paul

You also have to get new rear view mirror decals "Objects in mirror are farther away than they appear"

When I had nitrous of one of my Camaros, I burned through about 2 bottles a week between the track and the street. It costs about 30 dollars a bottle here and that's really cheap compaired to most parts of the country. But I'm a fiend so I never bothered hooking up an arming switch. The system was active all the time and would fire if I went full throttle. Felt awesome getting on the interestate. In anycase, if you ask 100 people what it costs them to maintain their nitrous habits, you will get 100 different answers. Its all about self control which I have none when it comes to horsepower.

quote Originally posted by Paul Prince: At a 75 shot level 10lbs will last (average) of 3 minutes of continious usage.

Sorry my quote of a minute was when I had a 150 shot on my mustang. It goes alot faster when running a big shot.

quote Originally posted by Paul Prince: At a 75 shot level 10lbs will last (average) of 3 minutes of continious usage. Around here it is $40 to fill the bottle

$40 dollars for 3 minutes of fun?? I can't think of any activity I'm willing to pay those rates. No not even that

quote Originally posted by jscott1: $40 dollars for 3 minutes of fun?? I can't think of any activity I'm willing to pay those rates. No not even that

Most of us can find that for free.

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I always pay between $30 and $35 to have mine filled. It all depends on how much the place you go to charges.

I have never heard of $50 bottle fills though. Unless you are running larger then a 10 lb bottle.

that equates to $4.50 a lb plus tax. thats nuts. Total rip off there.

My last bottle lasted me two months. I don't waste it by normal driving. I only use it when I race Keeps costs down on it.

SH

42.80 including tax for me to fill my bottle ($4 a lb) and well I used to use it alot and since I ran a .046 Jet I would have to fill it up atleast once a month but sometimes once a week. but then again I would also hit the button on onramps and stuff just to have some fun
Nitrous is fun but in the long run Turbo is a much better route because it gets addicting and you will find yourself keep getting bigger jets, I started with a .035 lol

Kyle

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Here it cost $2.50 to $3.00 per pound ($25 to $30 for 10lbs bottle). For me the cost is about $1.15 per week. Beleive it or not I fill it up twice a year. Not much action here But that will change once I put the 3.4.
Now, one thing I recommend more than anything is a bottle heater. Cold weather (<80°F) equals to low bottle preasure and weak performance. That's why I use it so little. Even here in hot FL half of the year nigh temps are below 80°. But my heater will come soon

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quote Originally posted by Paul Prince: You also have to get new rear view mirror decals "Objects in mirror are farther away than they appear"

Or "Objects In Mirror Soon Disappear"

I have 2 choices for Nitrous refilling, Both of which are 45 Minutes away. http://www.Ramchargers.com @ $4.50 a lbs or http://www.Weracehardcore.com @ $3.00 a Lbs.

Thanks for all the great info. It sounds like in a few years, the install price plus the refills could easily add up to a turbo (faster, if my foot gets too heavy). But the entry price to the bottle club is much lower ...

I know most dont really care but it gets really exspensive for a shop to fill a bottle. I charge $3.50 per lb. The pump lines adapters and tank bracket cost near $1000.00 , that does not include nice set of scales and a freezer to chill the bottles
1 tank can fill 5 10lb bottles, usually end up makeing about $40-50 per tank

If you are going to run a 65- 75 shot just spraying on the street you will actually get alot of use out of 1 10lb bottle, to get the most out of it you would probably want to buy a bottle heater to keep the pressure up especially with it getting colder outside now.

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sorry to hijack the thread but is it possible to hold the nitrous button down and use the whole entire bottle in 1 puch of a button ?

What happens if you push the button on idle ?

Sorry for the stupid questions but when it comes to nitrous Im well..... Lost.

Oh yeah and I heard ppl say it's hard on your engine..... Would 100 shot be safe on a stock engine ? or a 75 shot? Motor has 50k miles about.

[This message has been edited by 86fieroEarl (edited 10-15-2004).]

quote Originally posted by The Punisher: I don't waste it by normal driving. I only use it when I race Keeps costs down on it. SH

This statement is KEY. Anybody want to try and add up how much it would cost in nitrous to get 4.9 like performance out of a 2.8 continually punching it light to light driving everyday? Quite expensive I would think, much more than the cost of a 4.9 swap. The 4.9 gives you performance better than a 2.8 on nitrous all the time without the cost. Another reason some might opt for the 4.9 over the 2.8

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quote Originally posted by 86fieroEarl: sorry to hijack the thread but is it possible to hold the nitrous button down and use the whole entire bottle in 1 puch of a button ? What happens if you push the button on idle ? Sorry for the stupid questions but when it comes to nitrous Im well..... Lost. Oh yeah and I heard ppl say it's hard on your engine..... Would 100 shot be safe on a stock engine ? or a 75 shot? Motor has 50k miles about.

to answer your first question, yes you can you may not like the outcome but it can be done.

Well alot are set up off the throttle to where it will on engage @ wot, if you choose to use a push button you could push it at idle but then you would have a lean situation and would possiably loose an engine.

last question , it really depends on which engine, I have a 3800 sc with 70k and run a 100 shot. I am stepping it up to a 125 shot befor i drop the series2 in.

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1.579 60'
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quote Originally posted by Mastermind: This statement is KEY. Anybody want to try and add up how much it would cost in nitrous to get 4.9 like performance out of a 2.8 continually punching it light to light driving everyday? Quite expensive I would think, much more than the cost of a 4.9 swap. The 4.9 gives you performance better than a 2.8 on nitrous all the time without the cost. Another reason some might opt for the 4.9 over the 2.8

Anybody calculate this yet?

quote Originally posted by Mastermind: Anybody calculate this yet?

Yeah, I can see that one sending us all to the trash can.

quote Originally posted by Mastermind: Anybody calculate this yet?

Pictures before calculation.

Bwahahah Masterbator just got Own3d!

SH

As if anything you two say matters regarding me or 4.9s. I couldn't care less what you two think or say.

BTW Lil pun, you must enjoy being at the back of the pack everyday as you drive your little 2.8 minus giggly juice. 4.9 owners don't have to settle for that.

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All you have to do is post a picture of your car. I don't get what the big deal is.

quote Originally posted by Mastermind: As if anything you two say matters regarding me or 4.9s. I couldn't care less what you two think or say.

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quote Originally posted by Howard_Sacks: All you have to do is post a picture of your car. I don't get what the big deal is.

No offense Howard, but it's my choice not to do so and I simply choose not to.

quote Originally posted by Mastermind: As if anything you two say matters regarding me or 4.9s. I couldn't care less what you two think or say.

quote Originally posted by Mastermind: Anybody calculate this yet?

At 35.00 a fill, that probably comes out to 70.00 + a week.

At that rate, it would take 10 weeks to pay for my swap.... Yea, thats a heck of a deal.

Gene

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Now that we know the cost would be prohibitive just for the giggly juice. Can someone calulate how long a 2.8 will stand up to the constant spraying of giggly juice if used to match 4.9 performance light to light day in day out?

when you say contant... do you mean like a small amount even when just cruising or only at WOT?

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quote Originally posted by Mastermind: Now that we know the cost would be prohibitive just for the giggly juice. Can someone calulate how long a 2.8 will stand up to the constant spraying of giggly juice if used to match 4.9 performance light to light day in day out?

Quit trolling.

You have no credibility on this forum. noone cares what you say. please go away.

Lil Pun

Which ever way it would take in trying to get 4.9 like performance out of the 2.8

How much does a good wet kit run for, And could one just use the stock 4cyl fuel pump.... Mine is carburated.

Hey Earl if you are thinking about nitrous for your car I have a kit here set up for a carb.

Its brand new in the box. Its a plate kit which means its a wet kit. It uses a carb spacer plate to inject the nitrous and fuel. A very safe way to go.

I will even help install it for you.

$325 Its a NOS Sniper kit. Retail from summit is around $380 plus handling I want to say.

SH

quote Originally posted by Mastermind: I have credibility problems? You need to try practicing that line in front of a mirror. I'm sure you would love for me to go away. However, not before I knock the stick legs from under your argument against 4.9 swaps. BTW I think your little 2.8 would disintergrate if driven hard daily with giggly juice to get 4.9 like performance. Oh and so would your wallet.

How about me? Do I have credibility problems? I have nothing against a 4.9 swap. but I do have a problem with you and your bullsh*t.

Mastermind, you have no credibility here. Go away.

Mark

Ignoring the BS that is going on, on the other side of the argument against the cost of Nitrous is the additional cost of gas (petrolium that is) if you run a high performance engine or anything that runs a turbo, SC etc. Since it is always on you are far more likely to just punch it because you can !) and that will rpobably eat up $$ jsut as fast as a bottle of gas a week.
Anyone done a cost comparison between running Nitrous vs the same sort of kick in the pants effect from a turbo/whatever engine?
Just wonderin' which is really cheaper.

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Great question, ltlfrari. And thanks for bringing this thread back on track