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yep another clutch problem by blueoceandiver
Started on: 10-10-2004 08:01 AM
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Report this Post10-10-2004 08:01 AM Click Here to See the Profile for blueoceandiverSend a Private Message to blueoceandiverDirect Link to This Post
ive read all i can on this subject and can not get the 15/16 travel only 3/4 of an inch.
there is NO air in the system,i can remove the slave let the rod slowly extend to the end and the pedel will only move 2 mm,s.
ive replaced the slave,master,pedel,clutch,pressure plate ,throughout bearing.
the master has 1.6 inches rod travel till it bottoms out, the slave half of that.
im ready to take a sledge hammer and give this car a new look then give it to the bone yard.
is there a larger bore master around that would work???????
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Report this Post10-10-2004 10:47 AM Click Here to See the Profile for tampafieroSend a Private Message to tampafieroDirect Link to This Post
yep, I was there last month. You did not say, but, I'd venture to say you have a getrag. The slave on the getrag only has 3/4" travel. Trust me, I spent 6 weeks trying to get more, until I measured everything on the bench, and sure enough, it's 3/4". I had replaced EVERYTHING in the system. In my case it turned out to be the clutch disc installed backwards. Just so you know, the 4 cyl slave is smaller in diameter. With some mods, it will bolt to the getrag and give you appx 1.2" travel. But if you do so, get a rodney adjustable banjo (I did that too) cuz you can overtravel the throwout bearing and get it hung up.

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Report this Post10-10-2004 10:50 AM Click Here to See the Profile for lurkerSend a Private Message to lurkerDirect Link to This Post
at rest does the clutch pedal sit higher than the brake pedal?
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Report this Post10-10-2004 03:02 PM Click Here to See the Profile for blueoceandiverSend a Private Message to blueoceandiverDirect Link to This Post
sry its a isuzu 5 speed.yes the pedle is 1.5 inches higher than the brake.
im a tranny builder by trade so this is driving me nuts not knowing.
got any part #s for the slave so i can compare to my reciepts?
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Report this Post10-10-2004 04:33 PM Click Here to See the Profile for tampafieroSend a Private Message to tampafieroDirect Link to This Post
No, no part #'s, but, take the boot off the slave. Measure the bore. 4 cyl is 13/16", 6 cyl is 15/16". Masters are all the same size. Can you post a pic of how is mounted? Also, 4 cyl has the studs attached to the slave, 6 cyl has studs mounted on the bracket. Is your slave held with bolts?

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Report this Post10-10-2004 04:39 PM Click Here to See the Profile for KekipiSend a Private Message to KekipiDirect Link to This Post
I've fixed three of these, first one I used a ram set I borrowed from my brother. The second one I used a crow bar and blocks of wood. third I grabbed and incourged it to adjust to the right Hieght. All had the new steel peddle.
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Report this Post10-10-2004 05:34 PM Click Here to See the Profile for blueoceandiverSend a Private Message to blueoceandiverDirect Link to This Post
thanks for the measurements!!! it will help alot.the slave came with the studs.
i removed them to add a shim to make up for the flywheel bieng turned.(was turned last year worked fine)
ive seen a pic on this site of a isuzu with a long skinny slave ,wondering if that wont fix the problem.


will the small diffrence in inside diameter of the two slaves mentioned make up the 1/4 inch travel i need?

the slave is mounted on the original bracked....no cracks or bends.

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Report this Post10-10-2004 06:35 PM Click Here to See the Profile for tampafieroSend a Private Message to tampafieroDirect Link to This Post
Yes, 15/16" will get you 3/4", 13/16 will get you 1.1 or 1.2". Can't remember. Anyways, another possibility now that you mention different thickness pressure plate is that your slave is bottoming out. You may need to make a longer rod and check that your clutch fork arm is not hitting the casing. Does the pedal still go to the floor? Both of which I had to fix. To fix the arm problem, put a bunch of washers underneath the bolt head so that the bolt does not stick too far down the nut.
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Report this Post10-11-2004 08:24 PM Click Here to See the Profile for blueoceandiverSend a Private Message to blueoceandiverDirect Link to This Post
tampa fiero....i owe you a beer!!!!
im in cocoa.....lol
got the 13/16 slave and it worked,i like the car again.
took 8 parts places till i found somwone who knew the diffrence.


THANKS

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Report this Post10-12-2004 01:39 PM Click Here to See the Profile for KentoSend a Private Message to KentoDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by blueoceandiver:

tampa fiero....i owe you a beer!!!!
im in cocoa.....lol
got the 13/16 slave and it worked,i like the car again.
took 8 parts places till i found somwone who knew the diffrence.
THANKS

I ended up going to Central Auto Parts before I found someone who had a clue.

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Report this Post10-12-2004 07:22 PM Click Here to See the Profile for tampafieroSend a Private Message to tampafieroDirect Link to This Post
Cool, my clutch fix was slightly more involved.....but it's all slowly getting worked out.....
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