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temp. question... by hajii
Started on: 06-09-2004 07:45 PM
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Last post by: hajii on 06-12-2004 09:41 PM
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Report this Post06-09-2004 07:45 PM Click Here to See the Profile for hajiiSend a Private Message to hajiiDirect Link to This Post
Hopefully, I'll have better luck with this than I did with the electronic issue I had over the weekend...

I was stuck in traffic this afternoon (parking lot on the highway , when I noticed my temp. gauge climbing. It got above 220, and I got a little concerned when I didn't hear the fan cut on. Rather than run the AC or defrroster (& put more of a load on my motor with an electrical quirk), I just cranked up the heat full blast, which seemed to cool it off slowly. My question is; what is the stock setting for the fan, and if it's around 230-240, how can I determine what's wrong? I just replaced the relay (in front of the left headlight bucket) a couple of months ago, and the fan comes on when I kick on the AC or turn on the defrost (which kicks in the AC compressor), so, I'm pretty sure it is good.

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Report this Post06-09-2004 08:19 PM Click Here to See the Profile for JncomuttSend a Private Message to JncomuttDirect Link to This Post
Your gauge may not be accurate and reading higher than actual or your fan switch may be be bad. You can test the switch by pulling the connector off and shorting it to ground while the key is in the on position.

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Report this Post06-09-2004 08:28 PM Click Here to See the Profile for hajiiSend a Private Message to hajiiDirect Link to This Post
Thanks, John. Just for clarification; the fan switch is on the intake, right?

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Report this Post06-09-2004 08:35 PM Click Here to See the Profile for avengador1Send a Private Message to avengador1Direct Link to This Post
It's on the intake near the thermostat housing (V6 engine). The stock fan switch is suppose to turn the fan on around 220 degrees. Don't go by the car's gauges as they may be off by several degrees.
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Report this Post06-09-2004 09:17 PM Click Here to See the Profile for hajiiSend a Private Message to hajiiDirect Link to This Post
gotcha. I tested the switch, and I had power to the connector,but when I grounded the connector, the fan didn't turn on. Although, it does come on when I turn the AC on (but, as I found out a few minutes ago, not when I turn on the defrost), so I'm guessing I need to replace that relay again...
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Report this Post06-09-2004 09:56 PM Click Here to See the Profile for maryjaneSend a Private Message to maryjaneDirect Link to This Post
Haji,
I guess because of it's location, that relay is prone to get damp, which leads to arcing and just poor reliability. I've taken the covers off a couple of them, and just cleaned them up. If you have the single speed fan & relay, they are cheap enough, but the 2 speed relays on my 84's are pretty expensive, so I always check 1st before I go buy a new one. Use some silicone to seal it back up.
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Report this Post06-09-2004 09:58 PM Click Here to See the Profile for JncomuttSend a Private Message to JncomuttDirect Link to This Post
not sure if you used the right connector in your test. The fan switch connector is only 1 wire, and is a simple ground only switch..

The V6 sensors in the manifold, left to right ECM temp sensor, radiator fan switch, and cold start injector switch:

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Report this Post06-09-2004 11:17 PM Click Here to See the Profile for JazzManSend a Private Message to JazzManDirect Link to This Post
The '84 uses a two speed fan with a dual contact temperature switch in the manifold. My picture above shows the V6 manifold temp sensor arrangement. All power to the fan goes through the relays, but on an '84 it is possible to have one of the two sets of contactors go bad in the dual relay it uses. If the A/C turns on the fan, then at least on of the contactors in the relay is working, so the fan must come on eventually if only one of the two switches in the fan switch are still good.

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Report this Post06-10-2004 06:19 AM Click Here to See the Profile for hajiiSend a Private Message to hajiiDirect Link to This Post
Actually, it's a 4 cylinder, I grounded it to check the temp. light & fan, and only go the temp light. I'll try & clean up the relay, it's a single speed, so if it still doesn't work after that, it's only a $10 part around here.

Thanks for the help,

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Report this Post06-10-2004 07:34 AM Click Here to See the Profile for maryjaneSend a Private Message to maryjaneDirect Link to This Post
On the 4 cyl, the fan sw is horizontally screwed into the head, on the exh side, It is near #4 plug, and points directly toward driver's seat.
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Report this Post06-12-2004 09:41 PM Click Here to See the Profile for hajiiSend a Private Message to hajiiDirect Link to This Post
I stand corrected. well, I checked the switch, and the switch is bad. looks like I'm going to advance.

Thanks for your help, folks,

Dave

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