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84 2.5 Engine wiring (what is this!) by Caladin
Started on: 06-09-2004 07:00 PM
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Report this Post06-09-2004 07:00 PM Click Here to See the Profile for CaladinSend a Private Message to CaladinDirect Link to This Post
I am fixing the wiring harness for my 84 SE 2.5L fiero. The previous owner was a butcher and cut and spliced many wires very poorly. I have fixed almost everything but it has one wire that I am unsure of what it is for. It comes from the main connector (C500?) of wires through the firewall but ends up not attaching to anything. I would think its for something diagnostic except that it's about a 8 guage wire and its burried really deep in the taped up harness.

I circled the wire where it is on the connector and where it is spliced back into itself not connecting to anything else.
Whats this for? It is red with a white stripe.

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Report this Post06-09-2004 08:19 PM Click Here to See the Profile for ltlfrariClick Here to visit ltlfrari's HomePageSend a Private Message to ltlfrariDirect Link to This Post
Tried to post an image for the C500 pinout but it is not very readable. I'll try later if I get time.

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Here we go, and a free bump to boot!!


Sorry about it being sideways. took me umpteen tries just to get it show up so's you could read it!. Hope it helps.

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Report this Post06-09-2004 11:18 PM Click Here to See the Profile for CaladinSend a Private Message to CaladinDirect Link to This Post
I found a diagram of the c500 in on old thread. But i think it can be different depending on the year of car.
http://webpages.charter.net/stuartl/fiero/c500.gif
I don't see the wire mine has in this diagram. Im guessing this wire is supose to be +12 volts with a significant load since it is red and 8 guage wire. My car has never had the dome lights/radio/horn work when the ignition was off and im wondering if this could be a power wire for when things are off. Im leaving the last of fixing the wiring harness till tommorow. Hopefully someone can shed some light on this mystery of before I have to finish soldering everything back together. Im tempted to try putting power to this wire and just see what happens

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Report this Post06-09-2004 11:33 PM Click Here to See the Profile for CaladinSend a Private Message to CaladinDirect Link to This Post

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Thank you for posting that ltlfrari.
Just to show a better picture of my c500 connector here it is. The wire in question is circled.
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Someone must know what it is.
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Report this Post06-10-2004 07:09 PM Click Here to See the Profile for johnt671Send a Private Message to johnt671Direct Link to This Post
If no one knows I'll take a look at my 84 and see if I can trace it for you. I'm off work tomorrow and I'll check it then.
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Report this Post06-10-2004 07:14 PM Click Here to See the Profile for fieroturboSend a Private Message to fieroturboDirect Link to This Post
Those are the two relays on the passenger side of the engine, right?
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Report this Post06-10-2004 07:37 PM Click Here to See the Profile for CaladinSend a Private Message to CaladinDirect Link to This Post
fieroturbo: im not sure what you are looking at. But the things in my picture is the c500 connection right smack in the middle of the engine bay on a 84.
And i went ahead and put 12 volts to the mystery wire after checking that it didnt go to the ECM. And sure enough for the first time my dome lights now work when I open the door without key on and the radio dosn't loose its memory! Problem solved. I think I will run the wire straight to the battery with maybe a 30 amp fuse in the line. Sound ok?
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Report this Post06-10-2004 11:02 PM Click Here to See the Profile for fierohohoSend a Private Message to fierohohoDirect Link to This Post
Caladin, here's a link to a thread that deals with some fusible link problems on the 84.

I posted a couple pics of the fix I did on mine in that thread.

The 84 has two fusible links that should be attached to the positive battery cable terminal on the starter, I would bet the wire you have should have been attached there.

https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum2/HTML/045427.html

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Report this Post06-11-2004 12:38 AM Click Here to See the Profile for CaladinSend a Private Message to CaladinDirect Link to This Post
Thanks fierohoho.
There were no fusible links on the startor solinoid on my 84 SE. When i bought the car the owner said she thought the engine was from a later year. So im not even sure if its an 84 really. It uses the 84 distributor cap and the 84 c500 connection but the wiring harness has been cut up alot and its taken me a few days to fix everything up. So i guess now i need to figure out what year the engine really is to see if I must add those fusible links in to be safe.
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Originally posted by fierohoho:

Caladin, here's a link to a thread that deals with some fusible link problems on the 84.

I posted a couple pics of the fix I did on mine in that thread.

You would have found the location of those fuseable links in my wife's 84 amusing... I know I did.

Previous owner had killed the first engine, so he swapped in another 84 Duke. While I have to give credit for those links being relocated away from the heat of the catalytic converter during the swap, the new connections weren't exactly made to last. Twisted wire & electrical tape, all jumbled up in a mess on top of the intake, and crimped on to the "batt" line from the alternator at about its mid-point.

Needless to say, I've been doing some re-wiring.

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Originally posted by Caladin:

fieroturbo: im not sure what you are looking at. But the things in my picture is the c500 connection right smack in the middle of the engine bay on a 84.
And i went ahead and put 12 volts to the mystery wire after checking that it didnt go to the ECM. And sure enough for the first time my dome lights now work when I open the door without key on and the radio dosn't loose its memory! Problem solved. I think I will run the wire straight to the battery with maybe a 30 amp fuse in the line. Sound ok?


OH, right, now I see it. Hmm, I dunno.

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