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Car pulls right while braking by Shadow_Wolf
Started on: 05-27-2004 03:56 AM
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Report this Post05-27-2004 03:56 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Shadow_WolfSend a Private Message to Shadow_WolfDirect Link to This Post
Yes, I searched the archives.

The car rides fine and drives straight (aside from a bent rim).. but under braking it has a tendancy to want to go right - to the point where I have to actually compensate to avoid flying off the road. Visual inspection has revealed nothing out of the ordinary and I can't seem to locate the location where the problem is being caused - I'm assuming the corner with the bent rim (curb), however haven't had much luck locating the problem.

Any suggestions would be appreciated

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Report this Post05-27-2004 05:49 AM Click Here to See the Profile for topcatSend a Private Message to topcatDirect Link to This Post
Your problem sounds like it is caused by uneven braking force being applied to the brakes. Several things I would check:

First I would check to see if one of the calipers on the right side is siezed, and not applying. Put the car on jackstands, and have someone apply the brakes to see if the wheels are locked, or still turning. Then I would check the hoses to see if they are blocked. It is not uncomon for a car this old to have a hose deteriorate from the inside out. Then I would check the porportioning valve on the master cylinder.

Good luck.

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Report this Post05-27-2004 05:55 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Master Tuner AkimotoClick Here to visit Master Tuner Akimoto's HomePageSend a Private Message to Master Tuner AkimotoDirect Link to This Post
That could be caused by several things and these are what i would check for:

Right brake caliper binding early(grabbing before the rest)
Right control arm bushing
Worn tie rod ends
those I would check into for this problem.

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Report this Post05-27-2004 06:11 AM Click Here to See the Profile for AndyLPhotoClick Here to visit AndyLPhoto's HomePageSend a Private Message to AndyLPhotoDirect Link to This Post
One possibility is a bad brake hose, if the original hoses are still in place. They can break down internally and restrict flow. I had this happen on my '84. In my case, the car would initially pull to the right when the brake was applied, but eventually fluid would pass through the hose and the braking would even out if the pedal pressure was kept constant. Although it was less perceptible, there was a slight pull to the left when the brake was released, as the bad hose kept that brake engaged slightly longer. If this is the case, you can buy stainless steel braided lines (set of 4) for about the same price as standard brake hoses.

Another possibility is a stuck caliper.

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Report this Post05-27-2004 11:21 AM Click Here to See the Profile for SpideR WSend a Private Message to SpideR WDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by AndyLPhoto:

One possibility is a bad brake hose, if the original hoses are still in place. They can break down internally and restrict flow. I had this happen on my '84. In my case, the car would initially pull to the right when the brake was applied, but eventually fluid would pass through the hose and the braking would even out if the pedal pressure was kept constant.

Wow, thats new one I haven't heard before! I'll have to check on that, as my car has the symptoms described by both of you.

Another suggestion would be to have your alignment checked. It is possible to have the alignment such that the car will track straight, but on suspension compression, the geometry is all different causing the car to pull.

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Report this Post05-27-2004 11:32 AM Click Here to See the Profile for PyrthianSend a Private Message to PyrthianDirect Link to This Post
start with a good brake bleeding, especially on the front left. If that doesnt help, jack the front, pull the tire, and check the pads & caliper on the front left. look for uneven pad wear, like all inner pad wear or all outer pad wear. if they are uneven, replace the caliper pins, and maybe even the whole caliper. Then do the same for the rear left.
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Report this Post05-27-2004 01:03 PM Click Here to See the Profile for 2m8Send a Private Message to 2m8Direct Link to This Post
^^^ What they said. I was in denial at first, but I have finally replaced all the calipers and brake hoses and my brakes work good now. As I said recently in another post, I've replaced more brake hoses on my Fiero than my last 40 cars combined!! Calipers too for that matter!

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Report this Post05-27-2004 02:19 PM Click Here to See the Profile for C DuBBz87GTSend a Private Message to C DuBBz87GTDirect Link to This Post
Have you taken your tires and wheels off yet to take a look? I had the same problem. Little did i know that I had a blown tierod end, (ball joint???) well i replaced it, and that didnt help the brakeing problem, so i took em back off (tires and wheels) and looked around, well DOH when the tie rod blew, it (the grease) got on the calipers, and thats where you start,

clean your calipers with some brake cleaner, and for the love of god man wear safety glases!! the cans are pressurized like no other, i got sprayed in the face (left eye) with some, that was scarry, only other time i screamed that loud was when i got shot in the eye with a paintball gun..... anyway lets recap, from my experience:: its due to greesy calipers.

oh, easy way to tell is if the stearing wheel yanks your hand(s) over when you brake. if so then its a caliper problem...

throw me a posative rating if that helps....

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Report this Post05-28-2004 12:57 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Shadow_WolfSend a Private Message to Shadow_WolfDirect Link to This Post
Thanks guys, I'll be checking it out this afternoon.

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Report this Post05-28-2004 01:12 PM Click Here to See the Profile for TKSend a Private Message to TKDirect Link to This Post
Check the opposite side for a caliper hang. If you pull right, check the left side.
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Report this Post05-28-2004 01:20 PM Click Here to See the Profile for PhoenixClick Here to visit Phoenix's HomePageSend a Private Message to PhoenixDirect Link to This Post
I just had the same problem on an 88, turned out to be a loose alignment bolt on the upper control arm. It allowed the control arm to move under braking and it would return to it's normal position while driving straight -
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Report this Post05-28-2004 02:51 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Maetrix66Click Here to visit Maetrix66's HomePageSend a Private Message to Maetrix66Direct Link to This Post
Or, it could be something as simple as brake dust buildup in the right front caliper. If there is excess dust trapped on the pads,
then it can cause it to pull harder than the other side.

I would try cleaning and scuffing both sets of pads before buying any parts, just to
make sure.

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