Ok i am weighing some options.

I am installing a 2000 3800sc from a regal into my fiero 5speed stick. I Need to do away with all the Auto trans stuff if i get the stock GM PCM, or spend $1200 and get the GM programming software for my scan-tool and get rid of that stuff, or spend $700 on the haltech and start from scratch to even make it run. Or dummy up something to make the stock PCM think its looking at an automatic. Or go to a OBD1 computer and go backwards in rechnology and still have to dummy up something to make the PCM think its looking at an automatic, and i dont know for sure, but i believe with OBD1 PCM's have issues with the dual knock sensors on the newer seriesII engines?

Anyhow, just thinking out loud right now, i am planning on installing the engine in about 2 weeks so i have some time to decide, but which way should i go? Whats the advantages to the Haltech? I searched and didnt find much info on it. Theres not much info anywhere on the haltech.....i have many questions about it, does it come with any kind of materials for making a harness or do i need to hook it up one wire at a time to the stock harness, or make my own? BTW, i am not opposed to that if i need to do it. Does it come with Tables and programming to work with the 3800 seriesIIsc? Or do i need to beg others/make my own, to even get it running?

Sorry for so many questions!!!

Just trying to decide what i wanna do and looking for input from what others have done.

Thanks in advance!!

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85 GT undergoing a 2000 3800SC transplant. The wiring hell ugh......headach. Digital dash in progress.........more wiring ugh. Making it all work together.........wheres my advil

90 GMC suburban (for sale $3000 firm or trade for a good running fiero! ask for details, pic below)

1985 Fiero SE 5speed 4holer, this MIGHT become the 3800 car
2000 dodge intrepid- the daily driver (snore)
2000 Ford focus (SHO engine swap soon!)
2004 BMW Z4 convert, cause gotta have a bitchin chick magnet!
AIM: Ambulancemech

I do believe that the Haltech has no provision for an EGR system , so if you have emissions testing you could have a problem. Just something to check out.

Ok did some searching and found www.haltech.com

i really dont have an issue with the egr, its gonna be liscensed as a custom/show car. But the one thing i dont see is inputs for knock sensors when usin the haltech. Or am i blind and miss something? If it doesnt use them, thats not a good thing in my book. It does however offer a lot of tuneability with a laptop.......could be cool to install an onboard computer with a touch screen............i am such a geek.

anyhow, thoughts?

If you post your questions on 3800V6SuperchargedFieros@yahoogroups.com I know either Greg or David will respond with their Haltech experience. There may be others as well that are able to help.

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Bill Levin

www.l67swap.com

another forum that may be able to help you out.

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I live my life a quarter-pounder at a time. And for those 500 calories or more, I am free. There she is, 2 pounds of pure beef. My dad ate it in 9.0 seconds flat.

Chris West (West Coast Fiero) is currently dealing with Haltech in Kameo Kid's set up. Hes had experience with the Haltech line.

http://www.westcoastfiero.com/haltech/haltech_ecu.html

Give him a call in the morning and maybe he can help you out.

310 305-4111

[This message has been edited by WKDFIRO (edited 03-30-2004).]

Have you considered the DHP unit? $349. + $125 core
I am doing the same swap right now also and am trying to decide to either go DHP or OBD1...........

quote Originally posted by jb1: Have you considered the DHP unit? $349. + $125 core I am doing the same swap right now also and am trying to decide to either go DHP or OBD1...........

What is DHP?

Roy

Digital Horsepower you can purchase them from http://www.zzperformance.com I believe their company link is http://www.digitalhorsepowerinc.com

hey thanks for the responses!

The DHP unit appears to be programmed to work with the auto, so that isnt gonna work for this swap.

I am leaning towards the haltech PCM right now, i am gonna call there tech people and see if its gonna do what i want it to do.

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85 GT undergoing a 2000 3800SC transplant. The wiring hell ugh......headach. Digital dash in progress.........more wiring ugh. Making it all work together.........wheres my advil

90 GMC suburban (for sale $3000 firm or trade for a good running fiero! ask for details, pic below)

1985 Fiero SE 5speed 4holer, this MIGHT become the 3800 car
2000 dodge intrepid- the daily driver (snore)
2000 Ford focus (SHO engine swap soon!)
2004 BMW Z4 convert, cause gotta have a bitchin chick magnet!
AIM: Ambulancemech

DHP will program the PCM to delete all of the automatic codes, the speed limiter, the passkey and set the tire size to your choice in addition to the other modifications that they do to the PCM. I think the quote I got was for $350 plus freight to program your PCM. They also have a core price in addition if you do not have a PCM.

Bill

quote Originally posted by Ambulance_dude: hey thanks for the responses! The DHP unit appears to be programmed to work with the auto, so that isnt gonna work for this swap. I am leaning towards the haltech PCM right now, i am gonna call there tech people and see if its gonna do what i want it to do.

Excellent!!

I will be giving them a ring in the morning then. I guess i gotta go out and dig up a PCM from a GTP

Yeay, another day in the boneyard playin in the mud