I had a crazy idea on how to do this without getting out of your car and spraying down the rear tires.

What you could do is mount some injectors, one in each wheel well, and somehow run it to a pump that would pump bleach to it. Walla instant burnouts, and an easy way to clean your tires!

Just for refference, bleach burnouts are used mainly in dragracing, what it does is when you get the tires wet with bleach, you floor it, with no traction the tires get very hot and burn off the bleach, and in the process clean the tires extensively, my father was telling me about his "younger years" when he used to dragrace and thats how i came up with the bleach burnout idea. What do you guys think?

Now after doing some talking with some older friends i found out that it would be a big nono to do this on a public street, they could slap you with reckless driving, and grafiiting the street. So it would have to be very controllable and reliable.

Also, would the bleach eat through regular gas line? or would it be strong enough to withstand bleach's chemical properties.

Also another, and this is my last thought is, you would have to be able to have a varying controll of the injectors, because if it oversprays, and gets on the exhaust, then your just going to be in big trouble.

Anyone feel free to do this, i would love to know any information regarding this if anyone has done something similar to it. Im not gonna do this for now, i am going to take my drivers license test after school today. ::GULP::

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hi in younger days we used to make big puddle in parking lot of bleach/water , then drive car over it, line up rears and do smoking white burnouts..

bleach can get tacky , i think it would be better to somehow let it drip a drop at a time ever tire, plus you would need a system to fire injector and time it to coordinate burnout?

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easy... Find a parts car. Take the washer bottle out of the front (pump, lines and nozzles). mount the bottle in your trunk. Wire it to a momentary switch inside the car. run tubing to the tires, mount the nozzles.

Find parking lot, press momentary switch for a few seconds. rev to 3k, side step clutch, step on brake...

Sounds good in theory....

Make sure the nozzles are higher than the tank. Or it'll siphone out. And I was about to say the washer system trick. Heck if anything don't use bleach or use a dilution of it.

That's an OLD hot rodder's trick. You used to be able to buy kits from the back of Car Craft and Popular Hot Rodding back in the eighties.

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1986 SE 350 V8

WARNING it will get you a ticket if they catch you....(dont ask ... I was YDFoC back then ..you know in the 90's)
ok here let me tell you what I did back when I had a 85 Z28.. (no mullet..)

Anyways we did it with a washer bottle and the pump that was used in a caddy.. the tank was small enough to fit in the trunk cover.. had a dash switch and it simply squirted out when hit.. the tips used were washer nozzles and we mounted them in the wheel well Aimed down at the wheel

regular old silicone line we had worked...and we had it in the car for at least 6 months..and no leaks off of it..

Could get 10 nice smoking burnouts a night with it.. dilute it like said above with a little bit of water..

We finally had to remove it after the ticket.

I would like to know if the shrapnal & left over bleach does any harm to the paint ???

Sure it would be hard on the paint. Bleach is bleach and surely would not do any good.

There are windsheild washer kits in JC Whitney for $17.

Would some soapy water be better. It would break the static friction and would not be as
toxic. That is what we did. Some liquid soap all over the tires.

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quote Originally posted by RotrexFiero: Sure it would be hard on the paint. Bleach is bleach and surely would not do any good. There are windsheild washer kits in JC Whitney for $17. Would some soapy water be better. It would break the static friction and would not be as toxic. That is what we did. Some liquid soap all over the tires.

I believe the properties of bleach are more condusive to the white smokey burnouts. The bleach helps melt the rubber of the tires. I could be wrong, but I thought that's why bleach was used?

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Forget the bleach idea. If you want damage to your drivetrain, then by all means, use it. Just to mention, it's like gunning your engine when its raining. You get enough schrapnel when its dry pavement. If you have 1/4" thickness of shrapnel in your wheelwell you've done enough spinning. Actually the dragstrip is the only place for bleach burnouts on a warm day. There is also stuff called "Trick Traction" which will give you super adhesion on your tires without the damaging burnout. It just sprays directly on the tire surface and you can pull right up to the christmas tree and it might save you a tenth of a second or two.

Bazooka, I dont understand what you just said. Can you resate your opinion?

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Rickady88GT QuadCam 3.5 V6

you could use bleach, or i heard brake fluid does the same thing, not sure if it would clean your tires though

quote Originally posted by derangedsheep: you could use bleach, or i heard brake fluid does the same thing, not sure if it would clean your tires though

I'm not sure about bleach, but brake fluid is a full on paint killer. I wouldn't want it anywhere is could splash or get thrown on the paint by spiining tires. That would just be asking for disaster.

know what works a whole lot better than bleach?? HORSEPOWER!!!!! lol

VHT track bite.

quote Originally posted by Rickady88GT: Bazooka, I dont understand what you just said. Can you resate your opinion?

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Sure Rickady,
On the street, since traction is the goal, why reduce the friction on your tire surface. Instead of heating up the tires with bleach burnouts (risking damage to the driveline), why not concentrate on less white smoke and more grip. Even a softer tire compound (say 100) would allow faster acceleration than a harder compound (say 400) with bleached burnouts and will be safer for the tranny/clutch driveline longevity.

quote Originally posted by Bazooka: **************************************************************************** Sure Rickady, On the street, since traction is the goal, why reduce the friction on your tire surface. Instead of heating up the tires with bleach burnouts (risking damage to the driveline), why not concentrate on less white smoke and more grip. Even a softer tire compound (say 100) would allow faster acceleration than a harder compound (say 400) with bleached burnouts and will be safer for the tranny/clutch driveline longevity.

I don't think he's really worried about traction. Most people I know who have done this do it because it's fun and the smoke looks neat.

I know I don't have a car powerful enough to have to worry about losing traction from a normal tire, so bleach would be my only chance to do a real burnout....althought I've never done it and probably won't.

It's just fun to light up the tires and have smoke billowing out.

Easy on the drivetrain? I agree, it's probably not.

Dave

quote Originally posted by FieroSE86: I believe the properties of bleach are more condusive to the white smokey burnouts. The bleach helps melt the rubber of the tires. I could be wrong, but I thought that's why bleach was used?

Softens the rubber... that's my understanding too. When I used to drag race (mid-80s) our track used, to the best of my memory, "VHT traction grip." I looked for it, this is what I found: http://www.pjhbrands.com/vht/trackbite.htm

It might not have the corrosive nature of bleach (?) Spray it on the ground in front of the tire...

Edit: Beat me to it

quote Originally posted by cadaver: VHT track bite.

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Bleach wouldn't be excessively hard on paint, especially if it's well waxed, but I wouldn't use it like a new form of polish either. Bleach would not affect plastic, rubber, or silicone tubing & etc, but it will cause metal to corrode over time. Bleach has less surface tension than water, and thus is more slippery. There's no chemical reason for it to help the tires melt, other than traction. Bleach is not a solvent for rubber. (There's probably a better explaination for this, but I haven't openned a Chemistry text in years, and I don't use my Biochem degree for work.) If you want clean tires, I'd suggest Westley's Bleach White. Also, brake fluid is a great solvent; it will eat paint quickly. Don't use it for burnouts.
Bleach burnouts are fun, but damage your car. I wouldn't do it with my car, but it might a good time with an old jalopy.

Back in my days of pumping gas as a teen, we used to do 'one legged' smokie smokie burnouts using....get this: diesel fuel.

Nothing, and I mean nothing beats a diesel fuel burnout. In the absence of raw horsepower, rubbing down the tire treads with a rag soaked full of diesel fuel will produce immediate smoke, as well as slicking up the tires for a longer impressive burnout.

Diesel, or oil is used in the movied all the time. I don't know how many scenes I've observed that after the car peels out, there are small puddles of some sort of substance where the rear tires used to be.

The down side is that it gets all over the quarter panels, fuel and spent rubber. But on a beater, who care? You don't even have to live in a trailer park to try this out. Just remember, most accidents start with the statement: "Watch this!"

Anti-freeze works very well. A few weeks ago the truck in front of me was dumping alot of anti-freeze at the light. When the light turned green he turned left and I punched it. I rolled about 5 feet than it was like I hit ice. Within a few seconds the back of my car was hidden in a nice cloud of smoke and there was alot of O-faces looking at me. Was kind of cool.

Caster oil is what the Planes at air shows use in there exaust system to make MAJOR smoke so you can see the Plane and where it has been. I always wondered what it would look like if it where used on your tires to do a smoke show burn out. After all I dont drag race and I have not need to heat my tires for better traction or a good launch

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Rickady88GT QuadCam 3.5 V6

when i was younger me and my friends would do this but we used just plain old 10-30 motor oil works great