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4T65E bolt pattern by Powerstroke
Started on: 12-29-2003 08:47 PM
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Last post by: Powerstroke on 12-30-2003 04:24 PM
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Report this Post12-29-2003 08:47 PM Click Here to See the Profile for PowerstrokeSend a Private Message to PowerstrokeDirect Link to This Post
I am in the planning stages of a V-8 conversion for an 85 GT. I would like to keep an automatic in the car but I am concerned about the automatic handling the torque of the V-8. Is the bolt pattern on the 4T65E at all similar to the TH125C? Will the 4T65E be strong enough to handle 350 to 400 horsepower? Does the 4T65E have two chains?
As always, any and all input is greatly appreciciated.

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Report this Post12-29-2003 09:27 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Mr. PatClick Here to visit Mr. Pat's HomePageSend a Private Message to Mr. PatDirect Link to This Post
If your gonna do a 65, do the 65EHD. Its hard to find, but very strong. Im putting a 4T60-E bhind an LT1, and the beauty of both these trannys is the aftermarket. They can be beefed up more than the standard Fiero trannys. The bolt patter is the same BTW. An Archie adapter works fine. I had to trim the bracket a little, and the block to get it to fit, but it was minor. And that might just be LT1 specific. LMK if you have any more questions.

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Report this Post12-29-2003 10:06 PM Click Here to See the Profile for PowerstrokeSend a Private Message to PowerstrokeDirect Link to This Post
Mr. Pat,

Your words are music to my ears and plans. We (my son and I) are planning on doing the Archie swap so it was good to hear the Archie adapter will work. As far as beefing up the 65EHD....can you recommend any places to go for parts? An LT-1 ...... sounds sweet, figuratively and literally. I think we're gonna go the ZZ4 route somewhere between 350 and 420 horsepower...now if I can figure out how to get twin turbos on it my dream will be complete (a bridge abuttment at 200 mph...not really). Thanks for the reply. Would love to see pictures of your LT-1 build.
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Report this Post12-29-2003 10:42 PM Click Here to See the Profile for FreshjSend a Private Message to FreshjDirect Link to This Post
Beefing up the 4T65EHD is easy. Just visit one of the many vendors for L67 parts. They have it all worked out already. Stronger input shaft, single chain, better TQ, LSD, Clutch packs, Shiftkits, and much more are all available. Good info can be found at www.clubgp.com . They will be able to answer all your 4T65 questions.

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Report this Post12-30-2003 01:02 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Rickady88GTSend a Private Message to Rickady88GTDirect Link to This Post
Yes the 125 and 4t65 are the same bolt patern.
You can also try thrashercharger.com
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Report this Post12-30-2003 01:41 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Darth FieroClick Here to visit Darth Fiero's HomePageSend a Private Message to Darth FieroDirect Link to This Post
Don't forget that you will need a PCM that will shift and control the 4T65-E or any E tranny you use. You can get creative and use an S-10 OBDI computer to control it or order an aftermarket controller if you have the loot. All the S-10 PCM needs from the engine is a TPS signal and a distributor reference pulse plus power and ground and it should work fine, going to need a custom chip and maybe a VSS recalibrator module tho to make the VSS signal from the FWD trans compatible. Other than that, the 4T60 will work, as it is not electronic, but it is also not as strong as the 4T65-E.

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Report this Post12-30-2003 07:56 AM Click Here to See the Profile for PowerstrokeSend a Private Message to PowerstrokeDirect Link to This Post

Freshj,

I went and logged on to the grand prix site last nite thanks. Just have to go back this morning and check out my post.

Rickady

Gonna check-out thrashercharger.com

Darth,

I did not know about the PCM. Will check that stuff out.

Thanks for the excellent info gentlemen...

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Whooooooohooooooo I found a 4T65E that will handle up to 500 HP and 500 foot pounds of torque...........
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Report this Post12-30-2003 12:04 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Mr. PatClick Here to visit Mr. Pat's HomePageSend a Private Message to Mr. PatDirect Link to This Post
Check you pm's powerstroke. Twin turbo??? Goodness, your insane
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Report this Post12-30-2003 04:24 PM Click Here to See the Profile for PowerstrokeSend a Private Message to PowerstrokeDirect Link to This Post
Mr. Pat,

Thanks for the information. Very interesting. Hmmmmm....


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