Today I went out and started my 87 and the oil pressure gauge had stopped working, it's stuck at 0 now. I checked the oil and the level was fine, so I took it out to my mom's. On the way back it started making a sort of loud ticking noise. It's not noticeably leaking oil though. Any ideas on what might be wrong? Thanks!

[This message has been edited by wingmans_girl (edited 10-16-2003).]

Your oil pump may not be working. The ticking may have been expensive noises from your engine.

Pull the oil pressure sending unit out, run the car for a few seconds and see if any oil came out of the hole. If no oil, you've got problems.

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quote Originally posted by John Boelte: Your oil pump may not be working. The ticking may have been expensive noises from your engine. Pull the oil pressure sending unit out, run the car for a few seconds and see if any oil came out of the hole. If no oil, you've got problems.

i'll try that today.
other than the pump,what else could it be?

Its just possible that the oil pickup tube has worked its way out of the pump body. That would result in no pressure and the sound you hear could be the tube being knocked around by the crank. It has been known to happen on 2.8 as the pickup is not really locked in place.

Driving any where over ten feet with 0 (zero) oil pressure and then several miles the same way, I would think that there would be a parts trail at the end.
Hopefully it is just a bad sending unit.

quote Originally posted by David DeVoe: Its just possible that the oil pickup tube has worked its way out of the pump body. That would result in no pressure and the sound you hear could be the tube being knocked around by the crank. It has been known to happen on 2.8 as the pickup is not really locked in place.

that sound like something it could be.to get to the tube i have to take the oil pan off right?if so is there an easy way of doing it?
i just did the timing cover gasket last weekend,so easy would be nice.

I would expect a parts trail too. Maybe the engine was treated with Slick 50?

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bump

i was reading in ogre's cave about oil pressure and came upon something called a gallery plug under the timing gears.
since i just changed the timing cover gasket and front main oil seal last weekend.could i have knocked it loose?does it pop out when the front main goes bad?
thanks all

[This message has been edited by wingman (edited 10-18-2003).]

I have to agree with the others....no oil pressure + driving = junk in the road. Pulling the pan on a 2.8 is not awful but requires removeing the motor mount so that the front of the engine can be raised slightly for clearance. It could just be a bad sending unit. Perhaps you could rig a mechanical gage to see if you really do have oil pressure.

its a 2.5l duke.whats involved with taking the oil pan off with it?

1) Back car on ramps like you may when changing the oil for adequate height and support to work under vehicle. Wheel chocks for front wheels. Disconnect the battery prior to begining.

2) Proper tools, metric.

3) A good drop light.

4) Drain oil.

5) Remove the front engine mount nuts.

6) A jack or other means to lift the engine about 4-5 inches and support it solidly so it can't fall.

7) Remove starter wires and remove starter.

8) Remove the bolts and nuts holding the pan to block and look out! You may get lucky and it will fall off. Otherwise, work at it.

Sounds to me like the pickup tube could have came off .... or it could be as simple as the sender or as hard as a shot oil pump. Follow Indiana_resto_guy s directions for pan removal !!!!

P.S. Trey is doing GREAT Shane ... thanks for asking !

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quote Originally posted by 2M4 Dale: P.S. Trey is doing GREAT

That is GOOD news Dale!

got a new sending unit.
is there a trick to getting the old one out?
its a tight spot and i cant get any wrenches on it tight enough to take it out.

How's the car coming now? Well good luck with her and if nothing else I have a spare 2.5 here that we could work out something on.

Matt J

its not the sending unit.i let the car run a few seconds and no oil came out the sending unit hole.looks like its time to take off the oil pan.
thanks guys
shane

Ever thought of putting in a Caddy 4.9?

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quote Originally posted by John Boelte: Ever thought of putting in a Caddy 4.9?

oh if i only had the money and the know how.i'm working on the 2nd part

ok,ive removed the starter,engine mount bolts.ive tryed to jack the engine up but the whole car comes up with it.did i miss something?
does the engine mount bracket(the one that sits on the mount)need to be removed?talk about a PITA!

Boy, talk about taking your time! It took you almost 2 months to get this far?

Quickly scanning through the postings above gave me the impression that you were told to unbolt only one set of mounts; maybe you need to do all the mounts...well, maybe not the dogbone.

Either that or you are trying to lift with the deck closed...don't laugh, I almost did once . Good luck!

Beno

quote Originally posted by Jdlog: Boy, talk about taking your time! It took you almost 2 months to get this far? Quickly scanning through the postings above gave me the impression that you were told to unbolt only one set of mounts; maybe you need to do all the mounts...well, maybe not the dogbone. Either that or you are trying to lift with the deck closed...don't laugh, I almost did once . Good luck! Beno

ya,i got pissed at the car and had to walk away for a bit.plus it got cold out.got a new salamander for the garage.now with heat and time im back at it.