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How do they work? (Hydraulic Lifters) by RotrexFiero
Started on: 10-05-2003 06:50 PM
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Report this Post10-05-2003 06:50 PM Click Here to See the Profile for RotrexFieroClick Here to visit RotrexFiero's HomePageSend a Private Message to RotrexFieroDirect Link to This Post
I have been examining an old hydraulic lifter and was wondering how they work. When the cam pushes on the lifter, it give some (spring inside) and pumps oil through the pushrod to the rocker? Is this so?
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Report this Post10-05-2003 08:14 PM Click Here to See the Profile for StuGoodSend a Private Message to StuGoodDirect Link to This Post
How do they work? Quite well, thank you, and quietly .

Hydraulic lifters are used, because valve stems grow (expand in length) as things heat up.

When an hydraulic lifter is installed, the spring inside makes the lifter expand (it telescopes, like a slide trombone) to eliminate any gap in the valve train. You've already seen this, in the old lifter you took apart.

Fill the lifter with oil (between the lifter's body and the plunger inside), so that the lifter won't just squash again when the cam comes around. The lifter acts as if it were solid, because it's full of oil. No gaps in the valve train, so no tick-tick-tick, and it acts like a perfectly-adjusted solid lifter.

Great, but what happens as the engine warms up, and valve stems lengthen due to the temperature increase? Well, the lifter is designed with a very small leakage between body and plunger, so that the lifter can collaspe slightly, over a length of time , as the valve lengthens.

The action is very similar to that of a shock absorber. If you try to squash a shock absorber suddenly, it just ain't gonna happen - it's solid as a rock. But if you take a few seconds and squash it gradually, it's pretty easy.

Likewise, when the cam comes around and suddenly pushes on a valve lifter, the lifter doesn't have any time to squash (collaspe) - so it stays solid, and transmits (practically) all of the motion to the valve train. On the other hand, as the valvetrain expands gradually (due to temperature), the lifter has plenty of time to shrink itself a bit (via gradual leakage)and compensate.

Basically, hydraulic lifters have the ability to take up slack, stay solid when acted upon suddenly, and shrink gradually when acted upon over time. "It's a rate thing." The rest is just details.

BTW, I think the pushrod gets its supply of oil mostly from the oil pump, to the lifter body, to the plunger and up the pushrod - but I don't think the cam pushing on the lifter has much to to do with pushing oil up the pushrod. There's a ball check valve in the base of the plunger, so I think very little (if any) oil actually would be pumped up by the cam action.

"Another Stu novel " Sorry - but that's my story. Hope it gives someone a lift .

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Report this Post10-05-2003 08:25 PM Click Here to See the Profile for JazzManSend a Private Message to JazzManDirect Link to This Post
Pretty much right on the money. The oil flows through the poppet (the moving part in the lifter) up through the pushrod to lube the top end. The groove around the middle of the lifter intersects a galley in the block that contains pressurised oil. The pressurised oil is what pumps up the lifter while the engine is running, which is why lifters clatter on an engine that has no oil, or has gotten air into the oil system. Lifters rotate as they ride the cam lobe because the lobe is ground with a little bit of slant, and the lifter has a slightly spherical contact surface. This evens out wear.

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Report this Post10-05-2003 09:19 PM Click Here to See the Profile for RotrexFieroClick Here to visit RotrexFiero's HomePageSend a Private Message to RotrexFieroDirect Link to This Post
thank you guys. that's good information. Those little things are more sophisticated than I thought. I would have never thought they did so much.
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Report this Post10-05-2003 10:44 PM Click Here to See the Profile for StandardClick Here to visit Standard's HomePageSend a Private Message to StandardDirect Link to This Post
Yep. Listen to an OHC engine start up after it sat a few days without running. Nothing but clatter for the first few seconds.

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Report this Post10-06-2003 01:55 AM Click Here to See the Profile for buddycraiggSend a Private Message to buddycraiggDirect Link to This Post
stu and jazz aready have + from me, but i couldn't have said it better.

although i possibley could have been a little less long winded

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