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what can cause battery power loss by MarkJPana
Started on: 09-28-2003 05:52 PM
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Report this Post09-28-2003 05:52 PM Click Here to See the Profile for MarkJPanaSend a Private Message to MarkJPanaDirect Link to This Post
i have no clue where to start looking, the alt is good, and the battery, im told, is fairly new

what should i look for?
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Report this Post09-28-2003 06:03 PM Click Here to See the Profile for James Bond 007Send a Private Message to James Bond 007Direct Link to This Post
Clean or replace the battery cables.Is your alternater belt still there?

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Report this Post09-28-2003 06:22 PM Click Here to See the Profile for KRuzn MAchinesSend a Private Message to KRuzn MAchinesDirect Link to This Post
(darn, my nose is bleeding.) Sorry that was off topic, anyways 007 why do u have such red ratings?
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Report this Post09-28-2003 07:55 PM Click Here to See the Profile for edheringClick Here to visit edhering's HomePageSend a Private Message to edheringDirect Link to This Post
I'm seeing much the same sort of symptoms lately.

Went out to take a drive, tried to crank it; it turned over about twice and then "rurr-rurr-click-click". *sigh*

Put it on the charger for about 15 min. and it fired right up.

Few days later, same thing.

Friday I went to go to the store, and it nearly started before descending into clicks. Stuck the charger on it; the charger was set on 10A but the meter was reading 'way over, like the battery was taking 30-odd amps. (This charger has a 50A "start" mode, but it was in 10A mode.)

Anyway, then it started right up, after being on the charger for no more than two minutes. I tightened the battery cables and I'm going to see if that made any difference.

In short, I guess, I'm going to be watching this thread with some interest.

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Report this Post09-28-2003 08:14 PM Click Here to See the Profile for doublec4Send a Private Message to doublec4Direct Link to This Post
my battery died a few weeks ago. I have a bad alternator. Other than that, I replaced the rusted battery lugs for a better connection and I'm going to get my alternator replaced. Unfortunately on automatic fieros, the alt is a PITA

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Report this Post09-28-2003 09:49 PM Click Here to See the Profile for litespdSend a Private Message to litespdDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by edhering:

Friday I went to go to the store, and it nearly started before descending into clicks. Stuck the charger on it; the charger was set on 10A but the meter was reading 'way over, like the battery was taking 30-odd amps. (This charger has a 50A "start" mode, but it was in 10A mode.)

If your battery is pulling that many amps, it's bad. You need to have it load tested...that's the way to tell if it's bad or not. It may have a short in one of the cells...when you run the accessories, it works fine, but once you hit that battery with the amps required to turn the starter, it shorts out. Everytime I've had a battery that pegged the meter on my charger, I've taken it out and had it checked...and everytime, it was bad.

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Report this Post09-28-2003 10:33 PM Click Here to See the Profile for rcromanticSend a Private Message to rcromanticDirect Link to This Post
power loss is most of the tyme symptomatic of bad connections. try taking off the terminal wire and brushing them and the terminals with a hard metal wire brush, BUT PLEASE REMEMBER, TAKE OF THE NEGATIVE OFF FIRST. aND WHE PUTIING THEM BACK ONE POSITIVE FIRST THEN NEGATIVE SECOND. head my warning or you will be headin to the hospital then the battery store. hope i could help, try not to get hurt lol
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Report this Post09-29-2003 01:00 AM Click Here to See the Profile for James Bond 007Send a Private Message to James Bond 007Direct Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by KRuzn MAchines:

(darn, my nose is bleeding.) Sorry that was off topic, anyways 007 why do u have such red ratings?


Hey,what can I say, lots of winers on this forum.I think you need a boost too,you got A+ rateing.

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Report this Post09-29-2003 11:59 AM Click Here to See the Profile for GT40 Kit 3.8 SCSend a Private Message to GT40 Kit 3.8 SCDirect Link to This Post
There are so many tests to properly diagnosis the electrical system. But there are a few easy ones. With a multimeter, check the voltage of the battery without the engine running. should be around 12 to 13. check it again with it running. should be about 13.6 to 14.1. If you don't see any difference in voltage then the alt is bad. AutoZone, or maybe a local repair shop, can load-test your battery too. The battery has to be fully charged to load test, so it may have to be charged up first. Like I said, this is only a first step and may not answer your problem.
Good luck, Kevin

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Report this Post09-29-2003 07:08 PM Click Here to See the Profile for edheringClick Here to visit edhering's HomePageSend a Private Message to edheringDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by litespd:

If your battery is pulling that many amps, it's bad. You need to have it load tested...that's the way to tell if it's bad or not. It may have a short in one of the cells...when you run the accessories, it works fine, but once you hit that battery with the amps required to turn the starter, it shorts out. Everytime I've had a battery that pegged the meter on my charger, I've taken it out and had it checked...and everytime, it was bad.

Thanks...+ for you.

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Report this Post09-29-2003 08:38 PM Click Here to See the Profile for theogreClick Here to visit theogre's HomePageSend a Private Message to theogreDirect Link to This Post
Before you do anything else, pull the battery and have it tested.

How you test the battery depends on what testing system you use.

If you use a traditional resistance load tester the battery MUST be FULLY charged on a slow rate. (Fast charging may get you going but is bad for the battery.)

If you use one of the new computerized testers... These can test in almost any state of charge. These are purposly built this way so you don't waste time charging a fried battery. They are also safer... Charging a fried battery can be dangerous.

Once you are certain the battery is good, have the alternator tested. This can be done with it still in the car. Advance, Autozone, PepBoys, Sears, and tire/battery stores like NTB can all do this and I beleieve all are free. (Most chain parts stores can do this.)

Once those two things are confirmed good. Replace the battery cables and read Wire Service and the Battery articles in my cave.

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Report this Post10-02-2003 09:12 PM Click Here to See the Profile for edheringClick Here to visit edhering's HomePageSend a Private Message to edheringDirect Link to This Post
All right. Took the battery out and put in the one from my '86, which is not exactly in operating condition right now anyway (considering that its intake and one of the heads is sitting on a shelf... ). The '85 cranked and fired right up despite the fact that this battery has been sitting on the floor since mid-July.

There's about 8 months left on the warranty of the bad battery. The one from the '86 was apparently new in February. Hmm.

Thanks all!

Ed

EDIT: Quote didn't work the way I'd expected it to...oh well. Removed it.

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