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How many O rings need changed when doing A./C conversion? by RACE
Started on: 07-10-2003 04:39 PM
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Report this Post07-10-2003 04:39 PM Click Here to See the Profile for RACEClick Here to visit RACE's HomePageSend a Private Message to RACEDirect Link to This Post
I am researching how to fix the airconditioner in my Fiero and EXP. I and have heard a lot about changing the o-rings. How many are there and where are they located? Where would I get new orings that are compatable? Is this an off the shelf item?

If anyone has done the conversion and has created a step by step web page, please pm me with the address. I would love to see it. If not I will make one when I am done.

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Report this Post07-10-2003 08:04 PM Click Here to See the Profile for LambykinSend a Private Message to LambykinDirect Link to This Post
I don't have an answer as to precisely how many O-rings there are, but typically you'll find an O-ring at each connection in the A/C system. Not every O-ring is the same size, and I believe they have to be compatible with A/C refrigerant.

If I'm incorrect, then it'll be a learning experience for me as well...

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Report this Post07-10-2003 08:09 PM Click Here to See the Profile for MarkSend a Private Message to MarkDirect Link to This Post
I've never torn a Fiero A/C system apart, but in general....

1. You will need to change the accumulator/drier. There should be two O-rings on each connection to it. The relacement O-rings should be supplied with the new accumulator.

2. There will be two O-rings or seal washers at the compressor.

3. There should be an O-ring at the inlet and outlet joints at the evaporator and the condensor.

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Report this Post07-10-2003 08:43 PM Click Here to See the Profile for 862M4inCASend a Private Message to 862M4inCADirect Link to This Post
You may be able to find an "off the shelf" GM refrigeration retrofit kit that includes o-rings, and a small bottle of oil. These kits generally cover several models and have enough of the correct o-rings to replace all in the system.
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Report this Post07-10-2003 08:47 PM Click Here to See the Profile for spark1Send a Private Message to spark1Direct Link to This Post
Here's a link describing how a guy converted his 87 Buick. GM A/C units are similar so most of this applies. http://www.gnttype.org/techarea/airconditioning/R12toR134a.html
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Report this Post07-11-2003 04:11 PM Click Here to See the Profile for RACEClick Here to visit RACE's HomePageSend a Private Message to RACEDirect Link to This Post
Because of your replies I may have air for the first time since 1992. Thank you all for your resopnses. Excellent information.
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Report this Post07-11-2003 05:04 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Dennis LaGruaSend a Private Message to Dennis LaGruaDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by Mark:

I've never torn a Fiero A/C system apart, but in general....

1. You will need to change the accumulator/drier. There should be two O-rings on each connection to it. The relacement O-rings should be supplied with the new accumulator.

2. There will be two O-rings or seal washers at the compressor.

3. There should be an O-ring at the inlet and outlet joints at the evaporator and the condensor.

Plus there are two O rings in the manifold conector near the firewall, another just below the front trunk compartment which comes from the condenser, and another two O rings on the orifice tube connector. I believe that there are 14 O rings in all. Good idea to replace all the O rings for a reliable R-134a conversion.

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Report this Post07-11-2003 05:05 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Steve NormingtonSend a Private Message to Steve NormingtonDirect Link to This Post
Thanks for the link Spark1. That's a very nice write up.
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Report this Post07-11-2003 05:17 PM Click Here to See the Profile for California KidSend a Private Message to California KidDirect Link to This Post
I'd just like to add that I did my A/C Conversion 4 years ago, doing nothing more than bleeding the system, and recharging it with the bottles in the kit. It's still blowing cold today with no issues. Also did this with my Grand Prix at the same time, with same results, still have the car.

On the other hand, if for some reason you're going to have the system apart, it would be smart to change these 'O' Rings while your at it.

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