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No pedal return on clutch. by DRA
Started on: 07-01-2003 05:34 PM
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Report this Post07-01-2003 05:34 PM Click Here to See the Profile for DRAClick Here to visit DRA's HomePageSend a Private Message to DRADirect Link to This Post
When the clutch pedal is depressed it will not return by itself, must be pulled back out.

I just installed a master and have been working on bleeding the air out of the system.

Is this normal?
Will I eventually get the pedal to return on it's own if I continue the bleeding process?
(appears to still has a lot of air in the system)

Or is this a symtom of another problem?

Car is an 84SE 4spd 2.5 beater.
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Report this Post07-01-2003 05:59 PM Click Here to See the Profile for connecticutFIEROSend a Private Message to connecticutFIERODirect Link to This Post
It took me about an hour and a half f bleeding for it to work correctly, but it didn't stick down like you are saying.
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Report this Post07-01-2003 06:03 PM Click Here to See the Profile for DRAClick Here to visit DRA's HomePageSend a Private Message to DRADirect Link to This Post
I finally got the pedal to return by itself, very little resistance on the downstroke until you hit near the bottom, then it is solid, won't go to the floor. There is no visable movement in the slave, I'm assuming this is why the original master rod was bent all to heck.

I have a slave to put on but wonder if there are some other items I should check before replacing the slave.

Bent fork/shaft? Anyway to tell visually?

Any suggestions?

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Mine would engage just off of the floor. I would bleed it and it was good for about 2 months. I got tired of this and purchased a new GM slave. What a difference. My troubles seem to be gone.
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Report this Post07-02-2003 12:51 AM Click Here to See the Profile for wattsSend a Private Message to wattsDirect Link to This Post
There's a spring on the pedal mechanism itself usually - so if you pull the M/C pushrod off the pedal it should come up on it's own.

There's also a spring inside the M/C to shove the piston (and then the pedal) back out. I've seen the one inside break before causing no end of grief.

You of course know to have the 'loop' of the pushrod towards the top right?

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Report this Post07-02-2003 09:47 AM Click Here to See the Profile for DRAClick Here to visit DRA's HomePageSend a Private Message to DRADirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by watts:

There's a spring on the pedal mechanism itself usually - so if you pull the M/C pushrod off the pedal it should come up on it's own.

There's also a spring inside the M/C to shove the piston (and then the pedal) back out. I've seen the one inside break before causing no end of grief.

You of course know to have the 'loop' of the pushrod towards the top right?

Yeah, the rod is installed correctly and everything seems to be good on the frontend now, pedal return is fine after about ten more minutes of bleeding. Now it's the backend that seems to be the prob, may try to get the slave swapped today.

Anyone know why the chiltons manual says "damage to master may result if the rod is not removed from the pedal when removing the slave" ? I had a hard time getting the rod on the pedal bushing and dread taking it back off to do the slave.
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Report this Post07-02-2003 09:58 AM Click Here to See the Profile for RWFSend a Private Message to RWFDirect Link to This Post
Have you bled the slave yet???You may just have a big slug of air trapped in there...
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Report this Post07-02-2003 07:44 PM Click Here to See the Profile for DRAClick Here to visit DRA's HomePageSend a Private Message to DRADirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by RWF:

Have you bled the slave yet???You may just have a big slug of air trapped in there...


I was bleeding the system from the slave, does that mean I've bled the slave?

Went to grab the spare slave I have and realized it is the newer style, it's on a 4spd, will it work or will I have a problem?

Will try bleeding some more but am getting no movement from the slave at all right now.

Suggestions and will the newer style slave work as a replacement?

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See the difference in mounting points for the old style and newer style slaves.

Onward!

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Report this Post07-02-2003 08:12 PM Click Here to See the Profile for DRAClick Here to visit DRA's HomePageSend a Private Message to DRADirect Link to This Post

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Removed the original and when I manually push or pull on the rod I get a hissing noise and can see fluid, guess it's safe to say that it's shot!

Should I be able to move the clutch by hand, how much pressure is needed on the fork/shaft to move it out and should there be a little play in it?

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Report this Post07-05-2003 04:49 PM Click Here to See the Profile for DRAClick Here to visit DRA's HomePageSend a Private Message to DRADirect Link to This Post
Anyone have any experience with the slave rebuild kits?

Am going to be playing with both cars this evening, really need to make some progress on this 84SE!

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