Getting some new tires for the GT. Thinking about getting the same size all around 215/60R15.
What would this look like? The other option is 205/60R15 and 215/60R15 like stock.
Anybody running Yokohama EVS 100's?
Thanks
It would look not bad - that's what came in the 14" size for earlier year Fieros on the aluminum rims. Take a look at one of those and you'll know what the profile looks like.
In fact, this is exactly what came on the rear of all later model GT's.
I've had 225/50/15 all around and I think it looks more aggressive.
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Report this Post04-03-2003 01:54 PM
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Why go and settle for the cheap low performance tire, when you can have a higher performance tire for the same price? For the most bang for the buck in grippy tires is as follows: (Max. grip for less $$$) 1. Falken Azenis Sport 2. Yoko AVS Intermediate 3. Kumho Ecsta 712 4. Kumho MX 5. Bridgestones KD In grassroots mag, the Azenis was equal to the KD, but the KD is more expensive, these are the top grippy tires. With the Ecstra 712 coming in is a good third choice.
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Toogy Member
Posts: 465 From: St. Thomas, ON, Canada Registered: Nov 2001
Basically anything that Yokohama makes is a very good tire. And looking at that list that was posted you should avoid numbers 3 and 4 like the plague.
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The tires that I listed are the top five tires for racing on track using street tires. They come in 15", 16", 17", 18", and now 19" sizes. That is all that you need to know. Forget about the width ratio. In the Falken I wanted a 225 series width tire in 16" and all they have is 215 series width. It is still a 16" tire period. The speedo may repeat may be off 2%. Check the tire specs. Every manufacturer has different height and width ratios for a given tire. Discount tire is where I purchase all my tires. I special order these tires in advance to take advantage of their super low prices.
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Toogy Member
Posts: 465 From: St. Thomas, ON, Canada Registered: Nov 2001
Ok, smart guy. These are the following 15" sizes available for the tires you mentioned.
1. 205/50R15 2. Yokohama doesn't even make an AVS intermediate anymore. 3. 195/45R15, 195/50R15, 195/55R15, 205/50R15, 205/55R15 4. 205/50R15 5. Never heard of a Bridgestone KD, either has the bridgestone website.
So basically NONE of those tires are in the sizes I WANT.
So again thanks for the USELESS information.
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Posts: 1158 From: Big Rapids, MI...Ferris State Registered: Nov 2002
I just purchased a set of new Sumitomo HTR 200's in stock sizes: 205/60/r15 front, 215/60/r15 rear. I really like the road handling and they got rave reviews on tirerack.com. I have yet to get a nice dry day to test these out on the twisties, but they are sticking pretty good in the wet and in normal driving. $269 on the car!! Can't shake a stick at that!
I had 225/50/r15s all around the car in Dunlop 8000's. They were really good for dry handling, but the going was EXTREMELY rough and there was absolutely no snow handling. The treadware on these tires sucked as well. IMHO, the 60's fill the wheelwell better with stock wheels. If I was to go with thinner tires in the future, I would also be going with aftermarket rims.
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Report this Post04-04-2003 01:29 PM
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The information is ALWAYS correct. Did you check Tirerack and Discount tire websites? Look under the tire specs for the tire dimensions. The falkens are always backordered. The AVS is in Az in there warehouse. You must call them and have them do a search of their inventory. You do not have to have the 60 width series in your mind. Look at the tire manufacturer spec. Mine Falken P215 8.2" width is the same P225 712's width Kumhos. And yes the KD is a tire. Look at Solo2 racing. Look at all the cars that were running the KD's. I only list the high performace tires that the majority people use at the track. The less grippy the tire, the less traction they will have. Look up www.autocross.com and search their tire tech forum and you will see that there are some real hot tires out there that the majority people have never heard of. Us 75,000 solo2 people could not be all wrong. Please look up SCCA and then decide what tire is right for you.
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Posts: 1288 From: Eau Claire, WI Registered: Mar 2001
The Yoko AVS Intermediates were replaced by the es100 I think. and they do make stock sizes if they are 205/60R15 95H and 215/60R15 94V. tirerack has them, they are $79 and $81 respectivly if I remember right. ( I only looked at them once.) In my research that is what I think will fit my budget with the best performance. I am getting TSW 16x7.5 rims and Yoko AVS ES100 205/55/16 and 225/50/16 on my car for 722.
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KD's are made by BFG. Dunlop still makes the SP 8000 in 225-50-15 that I have on my 86 SE. I really like the sidewall stiffness of the 50 series. They may not be quite as sticky as some, but they feel great on turn-in.
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Regardless of which tire manufacturer you use, I recommend a smaller tire size in the front. My '88GT, which I bought a year ago, came with 215/60/15s all around, even though the front rims are 6" wide and the rear ones are 7". I recently installed a set of 205/60s in the front, and the handling has improved noticeably. Our Fieros have about 56% of the weight on the rear axle, and can benefit from some induced understeer. BTW, the substitution of 205s also reduced the front end ride height by about half an inch, which was another benefit.
I know that many Fiero models had the same rim width and tire size all around. But if we are talking here about changing tire sizes to improve handling, then I say just install wider rims and tires in the back only. That's my $.02 worth. ...Rickker
Ok everybody get out the back issue of "Grassroots Motorsports" magazine. November 2002 issue. "Race and Street Tire Test" Comparing all the hot rubber against each other and against the clock". Pages 70 - 86. That will answer how the street tires compare against each other. Also in this feature list the tire sizes for each tire. fierocsp.
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Report this Post04-04-2003 11:09 PM
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The Yokohama AVS intermediate was a fantastic tire but was discontinued more than a year ago. According to Yokohama CS they do not have a direct replacement. For the past 7 years I ran 225/45-15 front and 285/40-15 in the rear. With no more AVS available, I had to go to a 295/15 rear but could keep the 225/15 front sizes. The other option was a 17/18" wheel set with Bridgestone SO2 to maintain the needed rubber under my IMSA.