Would someone please post some pix of a four core radiator? How thick is it? I just pulled the radiator in my V8 Archie GT and would like to be sure I have a four core. The one I have measures 2 1/4 inches thick.
------------------ Tom Corey Melbourne, FL 87 Green T-Top GT 5Spd SBC V8 88 Yellow T-Top GT, 4.9L Caddy, 4T60E
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GKDINC Member
Posts: 1813 From: East Tawas MI Registered: Dec 2001
Where are you measuring Tom? My old stock rad. measuring the fins only at the bottom is only 1-1/4in. wide. Sorry no pic's of the 4 core and it's in the car so hard to measure. Not much help but I'm sure someone will be along to add to this. Thanks Gary
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buddycraigg Member
Posts: 13620 From: kansas city, mo Registered: Jul 2002
Where are you measuring Tom? My old stock rad. measuring the fins only at the bottom is only 1-1/4in. wide. Sorry no pic's of the 4 core and it's in the car so hard to measure. Not much help but I'm sure someone will be along to add to this. Thanks Gary
I'm measuring across the top at about the center of the radiator. It's just a tad under 2 1/4 inches. Here's a pic of it next to a 3 1/4 inch wide aluminum radiator I have (it's too large to go in - unfortunately.
------------------ Tom Corey Melbourne, FL 87 Green T-Top GT 5Spd SBC V8 88 Yellow T-Top GT, 4.9L Caddy, 4T60E
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Archie Member
Posts: 9436 From: Las Vegas, NV Registered: Dec 1999
Would someone please post some pix of a four core radiator? How thick is it? I just pulled the radiator in my V8 Archie GT and would like to be sure I have a four core. The one I have measures 2 1/4 inches thick.
If it's that thickness and has brass tanks (instead of plastic) then it's one of mine.
Archie
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Tom Corey Member
Posts: 838 From: Melbourne, FL, USA Registered: Feb 2002
That is a shame that radiator doesn't fit ( it looks so nice) what makes it not fit?? It looks like it should if that is a Fiero radiator in front of it.
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Apr 29th, 2003
Mr. Farknocker Member
Posts: 431 From: Honolulu, Hawaii, USA Registered: Dec 2001
that alum one looks too tall and too narrow to fit the mounts.
On a sidenote: I just had to put a new radiator in the Vette. I was amazed to find the OEM Corvette radiator is only a 2 row core and almost exact size of the Fieros. I think ill hold off replacing mine till i see how the summer goes. Corvette engine bay gets hotter that Fieros, stock there is no out vents at all for airflow.
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buddycraigg Member
Posts: 13620 From: kansas city, mo Registered: Jul 2002
Aside from the cap not fitting, I think the thickness would also be an issue. The radiator is not bolted in like most other radiators, it sits sandwiched between a bottom and top bracket with a hole in the top bracket for the radiator cap. The aluminum radiator looks like a unit made by Ron Davis Radiators (part no. 24163). Ron Davis Radiator sells it for $219 + shipping. The dimensions of this radiator is (24" X 16" X 3"). It has virtually the same dimensions as the Archie 4-core radiator sitting in my car (24.75" X 16.5" X 2.5") except that the width of the radiator is about .5" wider. I'm guessing that anybody using this aluminum radiator would probably have to modify the top bracket to reposition the radiator cap hole and allow for a thicker radiator. By that same token, the bottom bracket may have to be modified to allow for a thicker radiator. Aside from that it looks like a drop-in application. Hose reducers may also be needed.
IMO, $219 is a lot cheaper than what other aluminum mfg want for a custom radiator. AFCO quoted me $425 in 9/01 and then quoted me $479 in 3/02.
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Originally posted by buddycraigg:
the cap would keep it from fitting in there for one thing.
you'ld have to cut a hole in the hood.
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rogergarrison Member
Posts: 49601 From: A Western Caribbean Island/ Columbus, Ohio Registered: Apr 99
I was surfing the BeCool Radiators website the other day and came across Part No. 60158, an aluminum radiator designed for a Chevy Vega V* conversion that might fit our fieros. The webpage states that the core dimensions are 24"W X 18"H and that the dimensions of the radator is 25"W X 16"H. The BeCool Radiator dudes confirmed by email that there was a typo and that the radiator dimensions are in fact 25W X 16H. I'd double check with BeCool Radiators first before purchasing the radiator, though.
Summit lists the price of this radiator at $500. Ouch!
Why doesnt' the aluminum radiator fit and where'd you get it from?
The Held Motorsport radiator is taller than stock and won't clear the hood. Thanks to Dave Held, we figured out how to install it. I used a 1 inch aluminum block under the radiator holding shroud to lower the radiator and fabricated my own aluminum upper and lower mounting brackets. It's about a 6-8 core equivalent, but it remains to be seen how it works on the street. I installed it with a SPAAL fan and a CSI electric water pump in the back. Looks good anyway!
------------------ Tom Corey Melbourne, FL 87 Green T-Top GT 5Spd SBC ZZ3 V8 88 Yellow T-Top GT, 4.9L Caddy, 4T60E
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Mr. Farknocker Member
Posts: 431 From: Honolulu, Hawaii, USA Registered: Dec 2001
Does Archies 4 core Radiator work with the V-6? I know its JUST a V-6 but Id like better cooling then the stocker. Also can someone take a picture of it installed and tell me if i Use the stock mounts of does it just sit in there? And My car is an Auto does his radiator have a tranny cooler inside it?
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rogergarrison Member
Posts: 49601 From: A Western Caribbean Island/ Columbus, Ohio Registered: Apr 99
Bolts to stock location. I talked to him about one for mine, comes with or without trans cooler. I dont know why it wouldnt work fine with V6. I find the V6 rad works fine with my turbo car as is. Even when its 95* and bumper to bumper traffic, with air on, it dont go over 1/2 way.
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jscott1 Member
Posts: 21676 From: Houston, TX , USA Registered: Dec 2001
Thank you very much, I'll forward it to my no good, never happy, only will let you bolt on new parts, doesn't appriciate a thing, primadonna of a Fiero.
No seriously Thanks for the compliment.
Tina Let's just say my car and me had some issues today
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May 9th, 2003
Fierokid87 Member
Posts: 4954 From: N. Ridgeville, Ohio, USA Registered: Jan 2001
well the reason I ask if it will work with the V-6 is cuzz one the Radiator shop found a hair line crack in the plastic tank that could go anytime, and two i dont like seeing my temp guage sitting about 1/2 or a little above. My guage might not work but I just want to be on the safe side.
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Mr. Farknocker Member
Posts: 431 From: Honolulu, Hawaii, USA Registered: Dec 2001
well the reason I ask if it will work with the V-6 is cuzz one the Radiator shop found a hair line crack in the plastic tank that could go anytime, and two i dont like seeing my temp guage sitting about 1/2 or a little above. My guage might not work but I just want to be on the safe side.
There is absolutely no reason that I can think of why Archie's rad won't work in the stock setup assuming your thermostat works perfectly.
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rogergarrison Member
Posts: 49601 From: A Western Caribbean Island/ Columbus, Ohio Registered: Apr 99