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What does the Detent do in a 5 speed by Eric_PA
Started on: 02-11-2003 06:09 AM
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Report this Post02-11-2003 06:09 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Eric_PASend a Private Message to Eric_PADirect Link to This Post
Ok here's the deal. I'm currently tearing appart two of me Getrag 5 speeds to make one good one. I have noticed that the balls in the detent mechanism are out of round. Could this cause the transmission to jump out of gear? What does the mechanism do? What could cause the trans to jump out of first gear besides the clutch pedal, cables, brackets, and hydraulics?

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Report this Post02-11-2003 09:40 PM Click Here to See the Profile for buddycraiggSend a Private Message to buddycraiggDirect Link to This Post
i've rebuilt autos and know what the detent is on them. and i've replaced bearings and gears in manuals before. but i'm not following you.

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Report this Post02-12-2003 12:35 PM Click Here to See the Profile for MrPBodyClick Here to visit MrPBody's HomePageSend a Private Message to MrPBodyDirect Link to This Post
I'm not familiar with the Getrag, but on general knowledge . . .

Often there are two similar mechanism: detent and interlock.

Detent holds the shift mechanism engaged or disengaged -- in gear or neutral. Typically, detent comprises a spring-loaded ball that registers into a notch in the shift rail. Detent can be overriden by pressure on the shift lever, or by unusual axial forces on the shifted gear hub.

Interlock prevents engaging two gears at once. Interlock may take many forms, but often comprises a round-ended plunger between notches in two shift rails: when one rail moves into gear, it forces the plunger to engage a notch in another rail, so the second rail cannot move until the first rail returns to neutral. Because interlock is solid -- not spring-loaded -- it cannot be overriden without serious damage to the transmission.


Spontaneous disengagement may be caused by:

> Detent ball not moving in its bore (This was the case on my Isuzu.) Distorted detent balls could cause this problem.

> Detent spring weak or broken

> Worn detent notch in the shifter rail

> Worn shift fork (a problem in my old Opel)

> Worn synchronizer/hub, causing excessive thrust against the detent

> Maladjusted shifter

> . . . and maybe other things that I haven't thought of

Clutch pedal or hydraulics should not cause the transmission to jump out of gear.

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Report this Post02-12-2003 01:32 PM Click Here to See the Profile for buddycraiggSend a Private Message to buddycraiggDirect Link to This Post
i always just called it the spring loaded ball that holds it in gear.

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Spontaneous disengagement may be caused by:

> Detent ball not moving in its bore (This was the case on my Isuzu.) Distorted detent balls could cause this problem.

> Detent spring weak or broken

> Worn detent notch in the shifter rail

> Worn shift fork (a problem in my old Opel)

> Worn synchronizer/hub, causing excessive thrust against the detent

> Maladjusted shifter

> . . . and maybe other things that I haven't thought of

Clutch pedal or hydraulics should not cause the transmission to jump out of gear.

ditto on everything here , but if the balls are out of round, then it would probably be a good place to start.

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Report this Post02-12-2003 04:37 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Eric_PASend a Private Message to Eric_PADirect Link to This Post
Thanks for the info....

I have a feeling the balls being out of round where my problem, but now I found something else wrong My custom flywheel was cut down too far and now can't be used in my 3.8 conversion.

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