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Carb 350 to TPI swap pics by sluppy123
Started on: 11-29-2002 11:39 PM
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Report this Post11-29-2002 11:39 PM Click Here to See the Profile for sluppy123Send a Private Message to sluppy123Direct Link to This Post

Before

TPI Speed density system from 91 corvette w/ weather proof computer

Beginning installation.

Ready to go in car.

In car

I'll post more as I go.

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-Brian, Toolmaker
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Silver 87' GT- Turbo Charged, Modified 2.8- 235 HP w/ 8 psi Boost, 11.25" brakes.
Maroon 87' GT- 5.7 liter TPI, 5-speed

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Report this Post12-03-2002 12:10 AM Click Here to See the Profile for sluppy123Send a Private Message to sluppy123Direct Link to This Post

Tight fit


ECM

After fixing a few wiring problems it fired right up. First thought is Its gonna haul some serios a$$. You can really hear the cam, It's the Biggest cam Comp cams makes for TPI engines 260AH-14

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Report this Post12-03-2002 02:12 AM Click Here to See the Profile for TCBClick Here to visit TCB's HomePageSend a Private Message to TCBDirect Link to This Post
Could you also post, IN DETAIL, which wire goes where in comparison to the carburator set up? IT's looking real good!
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You lucky Bastard Absolutly beautiful!!!!!
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Report this Post12-03-2002 09:48 AM Click Here to See the Profile for LS1swapClick Here to visit LS1swap's HomePageSend a Private Message to LS1swapDirect Link to This Post
Looks nice ... Hate to be second guessing you, but are you sure that is where you want the ECM... I realize it says all weather, but where it is at it could even get ice and snow. I think I would at least put some kind of cover over it .....I put mine in the corner of the trunk it tucked away pretty good and doesn't take up much space. Not knocking it ....It Looks very nice you will be pleased when it is done

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Report this Post12-03-2002 10:02 AM Click Here to See the Profile for KlaXClick Here to visit KlaX's HomePageSend a Private Message to KlaXDirect Link to This Post
absolutely sexy.

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Check out Pictures of My Fiero and WhiteFieroGT's Here

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Report this Post12-03-2002 11:43 AM Click Here to See the Profile for FIEROFLYERSend a Private Message to FIEROFLYERDirect Link to This Post
Looks very nice. Quick question I see they are older heads not top bolt valve covers so did you have to elongate the two center bolt holes on each side of the intake to bolt on. I have done that with throttle body intakes but not seen it done on tuned ports. Hope she goes even better than you expected.
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Report this Post12-03-2002 01:11 PM Click Here to See the Profile for jelly2m8Send a Private Message to jelly2m8Direct Link to This Post
Anyone using a stock TPI ECM, it will bolt right up in the original Fiero ECM location using a 88 2.5 ECM bracket.

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Report this Post12-03-2002 02:46 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Poncho JimClick Here to visit Poncho Jim's HomePageSend a Private Message to Poncho JimDirect Link to This Post
Nice to see someone going from carb to FI..

I trust you're going to be replacing your fuel pump.. You'll need a high pressure pump for the TPI..

I was going to point out that the Vette intake didn't have an EGR valve.. (Camaro/Firebird did). But the cam you're using has enough overlap that you can do nicely without the valve.

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Originally posted by Poncho Jim:

Nice to see someone going from carb to FI..

I trust you're going to be replacing your fuel pump.. You'll need a high pressure pump for the TPI..

I was going to point out that the Vette intake didn't have an EGR valve.. (Camaro/Firebird did). But the cam you're using has enough overlap that you can do nicely without the valve.

the stock GT pmp is good enough to run a northstar at 100% , i don't see the problemwith running a TPi setup. More than likley he had a restrictor to reduce the flow from 40psi stock down to the 4-6 required by a carb.

chris moore ran a stock pump on his N* for 5 years , then swaped to a turbo trans am (89) pump ...no difference in performance


JM

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Report this Post12-04-2002 01:25 AM Click Here to See the Profile for sluppy123Send a Private Message to sluppy123Direct Link to This Post
Answers To a few questions.

I do plan on covering the ECM to keep junk off of it, it's the Stock weather proof ecm from 90-91 vettes. My TPI system Came off a 91 vette, and it does have a EGR valve. The vette Alum heads didn't have heat risers in them, so a tube connected one of the headers to the intake. I made some alum block-off plates as I'm not using the EGR system, I had it removed along with the VATS from the Prom. The plate in the center of the picture is covering the EGR inlet

The two center bolt holes did need to be Elongated, otherwise its a direct bolt-on.

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Report this Post12-04-2002 06:32 AM Click Here to See the Profile for California KidSend a Private Message to California KidDirect Link to This Post
Looks familiar!!! You're going to have fun!

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Report this Post12-04-2002 07:54 AM Click Here to See the Profile for LS1swapClick Here to visit LS1swap's HomePageSend a Private Message to LS1swapDirect Link to This Post
Wow they both look nice I think that is the first time I have seen a pic of California kid's engine. Good idea to get rid of the EGR I did that as well. Eventually I want to get the LS6 intake with no EGR. Once again looks very nice
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Report this Post12-04-2002 07:48 PM Click Here to See the Profile for California KidSend a Private Message to California KidDirect Link to This Post
Thanks!
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Report this Post12-04-2002 08:02 PM Click Here to See the Profile for RCRSend a Private Message to RCRDirect Link to This Post
Looks great. I love the look of the TPI. Here was mine, albiet in my Firebird:

My other reasomn to jump into this post, other than praising your work, is to ask why don't more people use the LT1 intake. It seems like such a better fit to a SB Fiero with it's high winding ability versus the TPI's low end torque.
Just curious...
BTW, this is why I mentioned it (and agin in my Firebird):

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Originally posted by RCR:
My other reasomn to jump into this post, other than praising your work, is to ask why don't more people use the LT1 intake. It seems like such a better fit to a SB Fiero with it's high winding ability versus the TPI's low end torque.
Just curious...

Thanks. Mine is pulling strong up to 6,200rpm, torque monster all the way! Running opened port matched plenum/52mm twin throttle body (it's asking for the 58mm)

I am curious on the rpm range with the LT1 intake and it's affect on torque/hp, if you have the info available. Not that I'm going to switch, but it would be nice information to have.

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Report this Post12-05-2002 08:06 AM Click Here to See the Profile for RCRSend a Private Message to RCRDirect Link to This Post
When I had the TPI, I had an LT4-hot cam, ported intake and siamesed SLP runners (not in pic), 48mm TB, TFS TW g1 heads, and 1 5/8" TES headers. It maxed out at 5400RPM. A larger TB and 1 3/4" headers would have helped, but the RPM peak would not have moved much. These are typical results from the thirdgen f-body groups. With just the LT1 addition, I can easily hit my rev limiter at 6200RPM, still spinning the tires as before. Results at thirdgen.org show approximately 30-40hp gain over the TPI. Check out www.LT1intake.com for more info. BTW, John Millican is a good guy, but I'm not associated with him in any way. So I'm not trying to sell his product. I did mine myself.
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