updated to a better link,,, sorry
http://www.coolflow.com/prod1.htm

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84 Fiero Phantom GT
Vortec 4300 CPI 5 spd.
"Any signifigantly advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic"
adding syclone intake and turbo

[This message has been edited by vortecfiero (edited 10-20-2002).]

A airco pulls more HP than the few HP your gain with the extra cooling... noting to win here IMHO..

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'85 Fiero 2m4

Nederlands Fiero forum

quote Originally posted by Morninglight: A airco pulls more HP than the few HP your gain with the extra cooling... noting to win here IMHO..

How do you know this?

quote Originally posted by Will: How do you know this?

Logic

You can calculate the exact gain from the cooled down air. dunno the exact calculation though.

If you cool down the air it will become more dense so 1 liter of air will hold more 02, a good intercooler without the AC cooling will give you 10-20 HP extra.
The aircocompressor pulls 5-8HP, the extra cooling of the AC will never compensate the AC.

A better thing to consider is a waterspray on the on the intercooler... It won't give you much on it's own but it will give you a little more boost headroom, the knock will stay away a bit longer.

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'85 Fiero 2m4

Nederlands Fiero forum

So what's wrong with this???
Quote from above link:
" Don't you lose horsepower, due to the extra torque required to drive the a/c compressor?

ANSWER: No. Many vehicle computer systems automatically deactivate the a/c clutch circuit at about 75% of full throttle. For those which do not, just manually turn off the a/c switch just prior to max acceleration."
end quote.

This one is a tougher call....

It's a thermal mass and not a simple heat exchanger. It's similar to using a cold plate to chill a liquid. Even if you take the ice off the plate, it keeps chilling for awhile.

It seems like it isn't something that would do you anything full time. Looks more like a race only sort of aid. Get it cold, kill the AC, make a pass. Even in that setting there are issues... like how long does it take to chill the thing enough to be usefull...

Seems to me you wouldn't gain anything in regular driving with the comressor running... It could even be a bad thing in a street vehicle.

I don't know.... I think I'd actually want to see one in service on the street awhile before I spent money on it. This one sort of smells of snake oil.

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quote Originally posted by Morninglight: Logic You can calculate the exact gain from the cooled down air. dunno the exact calculation though. If you cool down the air it will become more dense so 1 liter of air will hold more 02, a good intercooler without the AC cooling will give you 10-20 HP extra. The aircocompressor pulls 5-8HP, the extra cooling of the AC will never compensate the AC. A better thing to consider is a waterspray on the on the intercooler... It won't give you much on it's own but it will give you a little more boost headroom, the knock will stay away a bit longer.

Too many guesses here. Why don't you find that equation and work things out before you pronounce that it won't work.

What is the BTU/min that you need to get rid of and what's the capacity of the AC system?

If you check this site, there is some tech talk about IC and heat.

If you can fix some cool-container with a large capacity it cold work for short runs.