I was about to start installing the remote oil filter kit from Archie and I found I have an extra part (the part with the label 10168415) on my engine (1994 LT1) that is not in Archie's video. One of the pipes leaving it goes to the waterpump and the other is not currently attached to anyting.

Am I supposed to remove this part? Thanks for the help.

Yes you need to remove that. It is an oil cooler.

Havent seen one yet that goes to the water pump, but who knows......

Anyhow, it has to come off there, and discard it.

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Three minutes for an answer!

It was an oil cooler just like you said. It was in fact connected to the waterpump and a little bit of coolant came out when I pulled the pipes off. I guess it kind of makes sense using coolant to cool the oil just like the engine.

Sideinfo:

It's not only an oilcooler. It heats the oil up when the engine is cold because the coolant heats up faster than the oil.

Heatexchanger

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'85 Fiero 2m4

Nederlands Fiero forum

You should consider mounting that back on your remote oil filer holder. My guess is that it will mount right up

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If you want an oil cooler on a SBC, mount an external one. There is not room for that part and a starter too & believe me you DO want to have a starter on that engine.

Archie

But he can mount that Xchanger between the filter and remote mount.

Wow, what car is that engine from? My engine is from a '95 vette and it didn't have one.

Brian

quote Originally posted by Will: But he can mount that Xchanger between the filter and remote mount.

that is what I meant to say Filter not filer

quote Originally posted by Will: But he can mount that Xchanger between the filter and remote mount.

And just where do you figure it's gonna go?

Thanks for all the replies and for the idea to resuse the oil cooler/xchanger. It looks like it would mount up remotely just like it did in its original location. The engine came from a 94 Camaro Z28. I got the engine from a local wrecker - www.gmsports.com. I don't know if the part came stock or is aftermarket.

CA-LT1 - Have you finished your swap? Since we are both from San Jose would it be possible for you to show me your car sometime?

[This message has been edited by Randolph (edited 10-13-2002).]

quote Originally posted by Archie: And just where do you figure it's gonna go?

quote Originally posted by Randolph It looks like it would mount up remotely just like it did in its original location.

I'll type slowly. Just like Randolph realized, it can be mounted between the filter and the remote mount, exactly like I said the first time.

[This message has been edited by Will (edited 10-14-2002).]

quote Originally posted by Will: I'll type slowly. Just like Randolph realized, it can be mounted between the filter and the remote mount, exactly like I said the first time.

Will, I'll type real slowly.

I've been putting V-8's into Fieros for 16 years, I've sold nearly 2000 kits and have assembled about 200 of them myself. Randolph asks a question in this thread because he wants accurate information. Will, you have provided him with bad information. While Randolph is currently of the opinion that it might fit in there, Will (by agreeing with him) has reinforced an incorrect opinion.

Will, you've been around PFF long enough that you should know that I don't make statements on something not fitting on a V-8 swap unless I'm 100% sure. Will, you want so badly to prove me wrong on ANYTHING that you'll jump on any V-8 topic to contradict me. You've been trying to prove me wrong for a long time now and once again you've failed.

So what you've done is to force me to show everyone just how wrong you are.....

Now, I'm going to post these pictures real slowly so you can understand.....

Better luck next time Will.

Archie

Archie, sorry to interject, but I believe they mean to install the cooler (not heater) between the filter and the remote filter mounting boss, not at the engine block. Whether this can be done, I can't say. As for the cooler, it's been used on L98 and LT1 small blocks since the late '80s. My '88 350 had one stock. It was a performance option on Camaros and Firebirds. I suppose Vettes had them too.

quote Originally posted by RCR: Archie, sorry to interject, but I believe they mean to install the cooler (not heater) between the filter and the remote filter mounting boss, not at the engine block. Whether this can be done, I can't say.

I see what you mean, however it still won't be done because all of the Remote filter kits on the market now use a Ford Filter (PH8A or such) & this unit is designed to screw on where a Chevy filter was screwed on.

I've removed these exchangers from several SBC's myself & attempted to use them as you've described and found the above result.
So the only place where this 10168415 part has a chance to be used is on the engine block itself & there is not room enough for it there.

Archie
Archie

Who knows?
It looks like this PermaCool unit which is designed to mate to the engine block, will also mate to the heat exchanger.

This shows the inside of each, the exchanger from the top. All that's needed is a 1/2" pipe thread nipple.

This shows the bottom, and it takes whatever type oil filter goes on a 1994 LT1.

BTW, I'm not an Archie basher, I just think this will work.

quote Originally posted by RCR: Archie, sorry to interject, but I believe they mean to install the cooler (not heater) between the filter and the remote filter mounting boss, not at the engine block. Whether this can be done, I can't say. As for the cooler, it's been used on L98 and LT1 small blocks since the late '80s. My '88 350 had one stock. It was a performance option on Camaros and Firebirds. I suppose Vettes had them too.

This is what I meant as well. I am certainly no SBC expert. I only said "consider" using it. In other words see if you can get it to work. I wasn't aware of the remotes being set up for ford filters. Although looking at the last pic it looks like it might work after all( might have to make your own gasket). Not trying to flame at all hear . Just trying to make what I was saying clear. Kind of a oxymoron there LOL..... good luck on your swap
Alan

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Sorry for the blurry pics. That outer ring in the last pic is a wide, machined surface. Look closely and you'll notice the darker outer ring, taking about 1/2 of the machined surface. That is the stain from the oil filter gasket.

Looking at the second pic, the adaptor has two o-ring gaskets, and the outer matches well with the top of the exchanger. The top of the exchanger itself has a nice wide gasket built in, so you should be good to go.

BTW, the center tube of the exchanger is threaded at the lower end, and a circlip holds it in at the other end. This can be taken out and reversed if you like. The threads match up to the adaptor, as well as to the oil filter.

PermaCool makes these with a mounting bracket.

Hmmm looking at the pic again....... Not that piece, but rather the part that bolts to the fender or where ever you plan to mount the filter holder. I meant to say to see if it will go in-between the filter and the mount for it here is a sketch of what I thought it might look like ( I am no artist LOL), but if archie is right (which he probably is it uses a different filter so it wont work)
pip is giving me a "connection time out" I can't post the sketch let me know if you get what I am saying.

got pip tp work here is the part I was hoping it would fit on, but it appears it will not too bad

[This message has been edited by LS1swap (edited 10-15-2002).]

Yeah, he proably is right.

Go to http://www.bakerprecision.com/filtmnt.htm to see good pics & desc of the mounting brackets.

"All remote filter mounts with 3/4"-16 threads are designed to take FramŽ PH8A or equivalent. Remote filter mounts with 13 / 16 -16 threads are designed to accept filters with small or large O-ring patterns such as FramŽ PH11, PH13 and PH18; or Chevy 2-quart filter such as FramŽ PH373 or equivalent."

The bolt sticking in the side of the exchanger (in the above pics) is for mounting the water lines, not for mounting to the fender.

BTW, although this looks like it will work, I like the TPIS thermostat oil cooler system on page 110 of their catalogue at http://www.tpis.com

quote Originally posted by Archie: Will, you want so badly to prove me wrong on ANYTHING that you'll jump on any V-8 topic to contradict me. You've been trying to prove me wrong for a long time now and once again you've failed.

Get over yourself Archie. You're not a big part of my life.

Make sure you understand someone is saying before you say they're wrong.

I knew that you were misinterpreting what I and others were saying, but I couldn't understand how you could misinterpret it. I thought I was speaking very plainly. I'm sorry if I wasn't.

Or maybe you're too set in your ways and closed minded to understand when someone suggests something new.

Either way, get over it.

quote Originally posted by Archie: ...& believe me you DO want to have a starter on that engine. Archie

LOL

Ed