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Engine subframe removal questions...... by Art Doyle
Started on: 10-02-2002 10:30 PM
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Last post by: MaxDaemon on 10-03-2002 01:24 AM
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Report this Post10-02-2002 10:30 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Art DoyleSend a Private Message to Art DoyleDirect Link to This Post
I'm working my way toward an engine swap in a 1988 Fiero and would like to profit from experiences of "those in the know". Accordingly, your input is appreciated.

1. What is the most efficient method of seperating the subframe from the car?

2. What cautions are in order when removing the Fiero subframe?

3. Would I be well advised to strip and powdercoat the subframe while it was out - or is this just a waste of money?

4. What should be done to improve the ease of subsequent subframe removals? Are any wireing routing changes recommended?

5. What is your quickest observed time for subframe removal?

6.Any other "best practices" comments?

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Report this Post10-03-2002 12:49 AM Click Here to See the Profile for dosedClick Here to visit dosed's HomePageSend a Private Message to dosedDirect Link to This Post
Firstly, good luck to you. I can't answer all your questions, but I will tell you about my experiences in removing the engine/transaxle/cradle.

Everywhere you read directions it will (at the very least) firmly suggest that you use a "cherry picker" (engine hoist) to lift the frame. While this is NOT NECESSARY, I also strongly reccommend it.

It's best to use your engine hoist to lift the car (by way of lifting the engine assy.), remove the rear wheels, create a support system (this could be as simple as a wooden 'pallet' or some firmly placed stacks of 4x4 wood), lower the car (cradle) on to this support, unbolt the cradle and disconnect engine (lines/electrical/etc..), then use the hoist to lift the body up off the cradle.

It IS POSSIBLE to get away with this process without using a hoist. If you choose to do it this way, please, please be very cautious. Use as many jackstands as you can, and evenly distribute the car's load over them. Lifting the body once you've disconnected the engine and unmounted the cradle becomes rather difficult, and you will find yourself jacking up the car a few inches, then dropping it onto raised jackstands, then repeating many times. You must carefully place the jackstands and watch weight displacement throughout the stands for this entire process.

Again, whichever you choose, be cautious to stay conscious of your car's weight and where it wants to go. You wouldn't want something tipping over and having your baby fly off in some odd direction, or worse, causing harm to someone.

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Report this Post10-03-2002 01:16 AM Click Here to See the Profile for yellowfieroarriSend a Private Message to yellowfieroarriDirect Link to This Post
I agree with overdosed...or whatever his name was. I did what he said and it gave me complete access to everything. and while you're at it you could change the water pump and maybe a few other things that are hard to change when the cradles in the car. Instead of using a hoist to lift the car off the cradle I took a 2 1/2 ton jack, a thin, wide piece of wood that is about as long as the width of the car. I jacked up the car as high as I could get it from the center, put jack stands underneath it and VIOLA...or whatever.

If you have any questions during removal and need immediate answers feel free to call or email me (lalasbunnyboing@yahoo.com). I will PM you with my phone #.

I have taken the cradle out of my fiero twice, so I know what I'm doing pretty well.

Good luck!
Kevin

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Report this Post10-03-2002 01:24 AM Click Here to See the Profile for MaxDaemonClick Here to visit MaxDaemon's HomePageSend a Private Message to MaxDaemonDirect Link to This Post
I got lucky and rented a shop with a hoist. The lucky part came in when it took me almost two months to finish! I actually just put the car back together this weekend - just a clutch bleed away from driving it again! Make sure and read V8 Archie's site about the V8 swaps - it has lots of information about procedures to follow. Also, there is a wealth of information on this site in the other posts.

My friend and I have some car experience, but it still took some 12 hours to get the engine out onto the ground. Now, that said, I will mention too that the wiring was fried and had to be finally cut out of the car to remove the engine, and we took a break to build an engine stand - so probably only 7 or 8 actual hours of work. For a couple of guys who had never done anything remotely like this before that probably wasn't bad...

Vic

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'86 GT on the road for the summer!
'85 SC running smooooth. (SOLD!!)
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