Pennock's Fiero Forum
  Technical Discussion & Questions - Archive
  MSD-6AL and the Tach Filter

T H I S   I S   A N   A R C H I V E D   T O P I C
  

Email This Page to Someone! | Printable Version


MSD-6AL and the Tach Filter by Capt Fiero
Started on: 08-28-2002 09:46 PM
Replies: 9
Last post by: Dennis LaGrua on 08-30-2002 07:39 PM
Capt Fiero
Member
Posts: 7657
From: British Columbia, Canada
Registered: Feb 2000


Feedback score: N/A
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 260
Rate this member

Report this Post08-28-2002 09:46 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Capt FieroClick Here to visit Capt Fiero's HomePageSend a Private Message to Capt FieroDirect Link to This Post
I have been playing with my tach and stuff and thought well what would happen if I ran the tach lead to my MSD 6 rather than through the factory coil pickup. Well it worked. Then I thought, how bout I ditch the tach filter and was waiting for a jumpy tach, but it never got jumpy. Just perfect smooth operation. Has anyone else done this and how has it turned out. For those of you that arnt aware all MSD 6 seris ignition boxes have a tach output on the side of the box.


I am gonna try to run without it for now and see what happens.

------------------
David hotrodfiero@shaw.ca
85GT 2.9 4spd

IP: Logged
PFF
System Bot
avengador1
Member
Posts: 35468
From: Orlando, Florida
Registered: Oct 2001


Feedback score:    (7)
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 571
Rate this member

Report this Post08-29-2002 06:52 PM Click Here to See the Profile for avengador1Send a Private Message to avengador1Direct Link to This Post
I have the Crane Fireball ignition in my car and you do run the tach of the ignition box. Even if you don't have an aftermarket ignition you can still just jumper out the tach filter and run the car that way.
IP: Logged
Dennis LaGrua
Member
Posts: 15896
From: Hillsborough, NJ U.S.A.
Registered: May 2000


Feedback score:    (13)
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 328
Rate this member

Report this Post08-29-2002 07:59 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Dennis LaGruaSend a Private Message to Dennis LaGruaDirect Link to This Post
With any MSD Ignition box just hook it up according to directions, then remove the tach filter and jump the filter leads together- your done- less than a five minute job, no rewiring required. !

------------------
87GT 3.4 Turbo Best 0-60 5.2 seconds
http://turbofiero.fierojoe.com/turbo.htm

IP: Logged
gearjammer1980
Member
Posts: 257
From: Keystone Heights, FL. USA
Registered: Aug 2002


Feedback score: N/A
Leave feedback

Rate this member

Report this Post08-29-2002 10:56 PM Click Here to See the Profile for gearjammer1980Click Here to visit gearjammer1980's HomePageSend a Private Message to gearjammer1980Direct Link to This Post
A quick question....I was unaware that you could hook up a MSD ignition and get away with it. Isn't there conflicts with the factory ECM and EFI? I have been unable to get an answer from anywhere on this...Thanks..

BTW, mine is an '84SE 2.5l.

------------------
-------------------------
Please send any e-mail to Gearjammer1980@yahoo.com

IP: Logged
FastIndyFiero
Member
Posts: 2546
From: Wichita, KS
Registered: Aug 2002


Feedback score: N/A
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 70
Rate this member

Report this Post08-30-2002 01:17 AM Click Here to See the Profile for FastIndyFieroClick Here to visit FastIndyFiero's HomePageSend a Private Message to FastIndyFieroDirect Link to This Post
 
quote
A quick question....I was unaware that you could hook up a MSD ignition and get away with it. Isn't there conflicts with the factory ECM and EFI? I have been unable to get an answer from anywhere on this...

I run a MSD 6AL on my Iron Duke Indy,And it does RUN! However my entire ECM has been removed which would suggest there was a conflict. Unfortunately the engine was modified before I owned the car so I can't be positive.

[This message has been edited by FastIndyFiero (edited 08-30-2002).]

IP: Logged
FieroRacer
Member
Posts: 672
From: Lakeside, Ca, USA
Registered: Aug 2001


Feedback score: N/A
Leave feedback

Rate this member

Report this Post08-30-2002 02:30 AM Click Here to See the Profile for FieroRacerClick Here to visit FieroRacer's HomePageSend a Private Message to FieroRacerDirect Link to This Post
Anyone know if the MSD 6a series takes over for the Ignition module in the distributor?
IP: Logged
Capt Fiero
Member
Posts: 7657
From: British Columbia, Canada
Registered: Feb 2000


Feedback score: N/A
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 260
Rate this member

Report this Post08-30-2002 02:30 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Capt FieroClick Here to visit Capt Fiero's HomePageSend a Private Message to Capt FieroDirect Link to This Post
MSD makes harness adapters so you can plug the MSD box into any of the NON DIS cars. If you have a DIS 4cly you would need a special MSD unit for that. The MSD really does not interact with the ECM at all. It only amplifies the coil pulse and gives you multiple sparks instead of one small one you get 3 or so large sparks and over 3000rpms you get one really huge spark.

------------------
David hotrodfiero@shaw.ca
85GT 2.9 4spd

IP: Logged
mindscape
Member
Posts: 854
From: Bristol, TN
Registered: Jul 2001


Feedback score: N/A
Leave feedback

Rate this member

Report this Post08-30-2002 03:47 AM Click Here to See the Profile for mindscapeSend a Private Message to mindscapeDirect Link to This Post
 
quote
Originally posted by FieroRacer:
Anyone know if the MSD 6a series takes over for the Ignition module in the distributor?

No, the OE ignition module acts as a trigger for the MSD box. The MSD box drives the ignition coil and therefore releives the stress from the OE ignition module output amplifier.

IP: Logged
fotofrank
Member
Posts: 1034
From: Elgin IL
Registered: Feb 99


Feedback score: (2)
Leave feedback

Rate this member

Report this Post08-30-2002 04:18 PM Click Here to See the Profile for fotofrankClick Here to visit fotofrank's HomePageSend a Private Message to fotofrankDirect Link to This Post
I have an MSD6A and MSD GM Blaster coil on my '84 SE. The tack plugs into the MSD box. No problem except that the '84 coil das a differant pin out then th eBlaster coil. Check the NSD web page for th einstructions for hook-up. Be carfull and it's like falling down. I mounted my MSD box in the trunk on the wall between the trunk and engine compartment.

------------------


IP: Logged
Dennis LaGrua
Member
Posts: 15896
From: Hillsborough, NJ U.S.A.
Registered: May 2000


Feedback score:    (13)
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 328
Rate this member

Report this Post08-30-2002 07:39 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Dennis LaGruaSend a Private Message to Dennis LaGruaDirect Link to This Post
 
quote
Originally posted by gearjammer1980:
A quick question....I was unaware that you could hook up a MSD ignition and get away with it. Isn't there conflicts with the factory ECM and EFI? I have been unable to get an answer from anywhere on this...Thanks..

BTW, mine is an '84SE 2.5l.


An MSD 6A box will fit any Fiero engine with a distributor. For the later DIS Duke Engines MSD makes a unit that is compatible as well. As they operate externally to it, MSD ignition boxes have no adverse affect on the function of the ECM. The do have an effect on the spark and power- they both go up.

------------------
87GT 3.4 Turbo Best 0-60 5.2 seconds
http://turbofiero.fierojoe.com/turbo.htm

IP: Logged



All times are ET (US)

T H I S   I S   A N   A R C H I V E D   T O P I C
  

Contact Us | Back To Main Page

Advertizing on PFF | Fiero Parts Vendors
PFF Merchandise | Fiero Gallery
Real-Time Chat | Fiero Related Auctions on eBay



Copyright (c) 1999, C. Pennock