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The 3.4 rebuild has begun by FieroGT87
Started on: 08-11-2002 04:56 PM
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Report this Post08-11-2002 04:56 PM Click Here to See the Profile for FieroGT87Send a Private Message to FieroGT87Direct Link to This Post
I picked up the 3.4 today and started the tear down. It has alot of carbon buildup inside.

Any ideas you guys have to gets more Horse Power out of this thing lets hear them.

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Report this Post08-11-2002 05:12 PM Click Here to See the Profile for avengador1Send a Private Message to avengador1Direct Link to This Post
How's about a picture of the intake ports on the heads? I would like to see if they look like the stock 2.8 heads.
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Report this Post08-11-2002 05:25 PM Click Here to See the Profile for FieroGT87Send a Private Message to FieroGT87Direct Link to This Post
avengador1,

To me it looked like the Stock plenum would match very close. Without actually sitting one on its hard to tell.

Back to work,

Earl

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Report this Post08-11-2002 05:51 PM Click Here to See the Profile for avengador1Send a Private Message to avengador1Direct Link to This Post
Here's some pictures of my new engine. Sorry to highjack your thread. You can see some of the modifications done to mine in these pictures. These could help yours also. I had the heads pocket ported, I also have full roller rockers now. The engine was bored and stroked to 3.4 from 2.8 and Im using a Crane Compucam 2030. Im interested in a picture of the heads intake side, like my second picture, Thank you. and

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Report this Post08-11-2002 05:59 PM Click Here to See the Profile for OreifClick Here to visit Oreif's HomePageSend a Private Message to OreifDirect Link to This Post
Yes the 3.4 heads match up to the 2.8l intake. They are the same heads.
As for more power,
Change cam,
rework heads,
don't use Fiero intake system,
headers
double roller timing chain
roller rockers
performance ignition
You can get about 210hp with a mild build and about 265hp with a wild build normally aspirated.
Then there's turbo's, superchargers, and nos for more.
The aftermarket isn't huge but it's there.
Depending on who or what I give my specs to, mine will run 210-235hp. I'm guessing the 210hp is the realistic number, but once the motor is built, installed, and running, I'm going to dyno it and see what source was the most accurate.

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Report this Post08-11-2002 09:00 PM Click Here to See the Profile for FieroGT87Send a Private Message to FieroGT87Direct Link to This Post
avengador,

Heres a pic on intake side of the heads. Don't worry about highjacking the thread. The more info here on 3.4's the better.

I hoping to get around 215-230 normal aspiration.

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Report this Post08-11-2002 09:26 PM Click Here to See the Profile for avengador1Send a Private Message to avengador1Direct Link to This Post
I found a formula from the Accel site to determine what size injectors to use. The 19# injectors are good for 215 HP using the formula. Here it is: (HP x BSFC)/(#cyl x Duty Cycle). The results of the formula are the pounds per hour size injector. HP= Horsepower, BSFC= Brake specific fuel consumption, for low compression the number is .5 to .6, for high compression the number is .45 to .35 (use .45 for average engine). Duty cycle is the percentage of time the fuel injector will be on (.8 to .85 is safe number)

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Report this Post08-11-2002 10:45 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Dennis LaGruaSend a Private Message to Dennis LaGruaDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by avengador1:
I found a formula from the Accel site to determine what size injectors to use. The 19# injectors are good for 215 HP using the formula. Here it is: (HP x BSFC)/(#cyl x Duty Cycle). The results of the formula are the pounds per hour size injector. HP= Horsepower, BSFC= Brake specific fuel consumption, for low compression the number is .5 to .6, for high compression the number is .45 to .35 (use .45 for average engine). Duty cycle is the percentage of time the fuel injector will be on (.8 to .85 is safe number)

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You calculations are correct but the assuption of an average BSFC number can throw the results off. The BSFC actually varies greatly from engine to engine. If you use 19 lb/hr. fuel injectors the theoretical HP figure that these can support is 215 HP as you show above. The Ford Mustang 5.0L V8 used 19 lb/hr fuel injectors and modifed engines of this type made over 250 HP with these injectors.
For short periods of time like 10 to 20 second (such as in the 1/4 mile) you can run your injectors at 100% duty cycle with no ill effects. For criusing and daily driving the duty cycle which you show is recommended.

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Report this Post08-11-2002 10:54 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Fiero_FreakSend a Private Message to Fiero_FreakDirect Link to This Post
Hey Earl.... I'm going to see if I still have that 3.4 intake. I don't think that I kept it...but I'll keep an eye open for it. Reversing that one may be a possiblity.

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