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faster steering by mrossum
Started on: 08-06-2002 09:34 AM
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Report this Post08-06-2002 09:34 AM Click Here to See the Profile for mrossumSend a Private Message to mrossumDirect Link to This Post
anyone done any figuring on how to get faster steering?? not talking about power, just faster. right now, my rack is 3 1/2 turns, lock to lock. would like to find something to convert to, to get 2 or 2 1/2 turns, lock to lock.....
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Report this Post08-06-2002 10:55 AM Click Here to See the Profile for revinSend a Private Message to revinDirect Link to This Post
larger tires(16+) change the turning radius
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Report this Post08-06-2002 11:37 AM Click Here to See the Profile for GTDudeDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by revin:
larger tires(16+) change the turning radius

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Report this Post08-06-2002 11:39 AM Click Here to See the Profile for TONY_CSend a Private Message to TONY_CDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by revin:
larger tires(16+) change the turning radius

WHAT????

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Report this Post08-06-2002 11:51 AM Click Here to See the Profile for WillSend a Private Message to WillDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by revin:
larger tires(16+) change the turning radius

You mean "scrub radius". Taller tires will make the steering easier, but no quicker.

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Report this Post08-06-2002 01:01 PM Click Here to See the Profile for mrossumSend a Private Message to mrossumDirect Link to This Post
i'm not talking about turning radius. i want the wheels to turn farther for any given steering wheel input. my wifes mustang steering wheel truns 2 1/4 turns from all the way left to all the way right. that is what i am after. understand???
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Originally posted by mrossum:
my wifes mustang steering wheel truns 2 1/4 turns from all the way left to all the way right. that is what i am after.

That would be nice! (the 2 1/4 turns lock to lock, not the Mustang )

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Report this Post08-06-2002 03:23 PM Click Here to See the Profile for WillSend a Private Message to WillDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by mrossum:
my wifes mustang steering wheel truns 2 1/4 turns from all the way left to all the way right. that is what i am after. understand???

You and me both, pal.

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Report this Post08-06-2002 03:41 PM Click Here to See the Profile for revinSend a Private Message to revinDirect Link to This Post
Dude I think you are fighting a up hill battle.
YOU might look into putting a differant steering GEAR box on the Fiero. Not sure what would fit? stang???maybe?
Look into it better ( I have not messed with things up front yet)
I am sure these guys would love to know!!
Sorry I tried.

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Report this Post08-06-2002 03:59 PM Click Here to See the Profile for TONY_CSend a Private Message to TONY_CDirect Link to This Post
There was a pontiac "off-road" rack gear and pinion gear that was offered for awhile from GM which was like 2 2-1/2 turns. It was a direct swap into the Fiero rack housing. I used to have the part numbers but it was discontinued long ago. I am pretty sure the pace cars had them, the ones actually used at Indy and not the street versions. Those cars had alot of components not found on street Indy pace cars.

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Report this Post08-06-2002 04:39 PM Click Here to See the Profile for shark93726Click Here to visit shark93726's HomePageSend a Private Message to shark93726Direct Link to This Post
'84 SE Fieros came with na quick ratio steering rack, and probably other years with Gts, etc.

This rack has about 2.8 turns lock to lock, and is a very nice improvement over the slower ratio steering.

You should be able to easily find one in junkyard cars, just test the steering turns on each car. (You might need to bring a vise grips, 'cause a lot of cars are missing the steering wheel)

You may want to remove the steering stabilizer too, to lighten the steering effort required for the quick steering ratio. This makes it almost equivalent to power steering.

Hope this helps ya.

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Report this Post08-06-2002 05:33 PM Click Here to See the Profile for MrPBodyClick Here to visit MrPBody's HomePageSend a Private Message to MrPBodyDirect Link to This Post
For early cars (not '88), I think WS6 suspension package included 3-turn rack. I could be making it up, but I think it's true.

I have seen (somewhere . . . ?) IMSA specs for a 2- or 2.5-turn rack.

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Report this Post08-06-2002 05:44 PM Click Here to See the Profile for jesterfox'Send a Private Message to jesterfox'Direct Link to This Post
I am not sure where to get it, but it exists... Someone made a steering rack for the 88 that was designed to change this to like 1 rotation..

It was a long time ago, but another Fiero owner was telling me about a 15 degree something or other, and he gave me the impression that it was one full rotation or less. I also got the impression that this was a very drastic mod, mainly for dedicated race cars.

At the time I thought this was over kill. But it would be so nice to not have to let go of the wheel at all while autoXing. So nice in fact I could live with it daily. The problem I see is that your steering will be more difficult than before. Harder to turn wheel.

Sorry I cant tell you more. Good luck, and when you find it, let me know!

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Report this Post10-11-2002 09:31 AM Click Here to See the Profile for mrossumSend a Private Message to mrossumDirect Link to This Post
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Report this Post10-11-2002 11:43 AM Click Here to See the Profile for cowansSend a Private Message to cowansDirect Link to This Post
I'm thinking the same as MrPbody. I believe the 85-87GT came with a faster (3 turn) radius. not positive though...
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Report this Post10-11-2002 12:28 PM Click Here to See the Profile for PhilphineSend a Private Message to PhilphineDirect Link to This Post
i thought i remembered rodney saying his mera had really quick steering, but i don't remember the details. might try to talk (post?) to him.
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Report this Post10-11-2002 02:11 PM Click Here to See the Profile for DennySend a Private Message to DennyDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by MrPBody:
For early cars (not '88), I think WS6 suspension package included 3-turn rack. I could be making it up, but I think it's true.

You are correcet, sir.

Non-WS6 is 3.5 turns.

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Report this Post10-11-2002 02:53 PM Click Here to See the Profile for RaydarSend a Private Message to RaydarDirect Link to This Post
I think the Fiero Store sells two different racks for the 84-87 models. One of them is probably the "faster ratio", what ever that ratio is.

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Report this Post10-11-2002 03:15 PM Click Here to See the Profile for janice_hoSend a Private Message to janice_hoDirect Link to This Post
If you have a look in some of the Hot Rod mags, look for a company that specializes in steering components. Give them a call and ask for a steering ratio reducer. It is a small gear set up that just goes inline with the column. You turn the steering wheel once and the output is 1.25 more, you can get different ratios.
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Report this Post10-11-2002 04:27 PM Click Here to See the Profile for PhilSend a Private Message to PhilDirect Link to This Post
Put on a smaller diameter aftermarket steering wheel. Makes steering quicker plus it gives a touch more knee room.

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Report this Post10-11-2002 04:41 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Wipe0utClick Here to visit Wipe0ut's HomePageSend a Private Message to Wipe0utDirect Link to This Post
My steering wheel turns 3 times lock to lock. Does that mean it has the WS6 suspension? Is 3 even the faster ratio? I have an '86 GT.

Edit: Hey, I guess I missed some posts because it was explained. Cool, I have the WS6.

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