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Supercharger kit for 4 and 6 engines FOUND!! by Shaun41178
Started on: 06-13-2002 06:45 PM
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Fiero Store Pamphlet dated October 1992.

I quote:

"Give your Fiero the performance that the sleek exotic lines deserve. The Fiero Store Supercharger Kit will give you what the Big Wigs and GM forgot to- Pure raw unadulterated POWER.

The Fiero Store in conjunction with Paxton Enginerring have developed the ultimate weapon for creating horsepower from the stock 4 or 6 cylinder Fiero engines. Our system utilizes state of the art tehcnolgies to provide a reliable, economical and safe way to increase horsepower. We have designed each system to be installed without any modifications to engine, exhaust, or engine compartment. Installation can be accomplished by the average mechanic in one afternoon. No special tools required and all the parts are included in the kit.(no other parts to buy).

Why a supercharger you ask?
1. Ease of installation vs Turbo.
2. Comparable HP increase
3. Self contained oil system
4. No x-tra heat buildup
5. no turbo lag
6. no need for intercooler
Order yours today!!

Part # 59400 4 cyl kit $2495**
Part # 59410 6 cyl kit $2595**

Average net hp increase 36%

** Price and availability to be announced, 4 cyl available in Dec, V6 available in Jan. "

Too late to call them tonight so I will probably call tomorrow and just try and find out some more info about this. I dont' they have one laying on a shelf somewhere. And this was a 92 price for this kit. Probably more today of course.

Makes you wonder eh??

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Report this Post06-13-2002 06:59 PM Click Here to See the Profile for jelly2m8Send a Private Message to jelly2m8Direct Link to This Post
I'm pretty sure TFS does not sell any supercharger kits.

Alot can happen in ten years.......

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Report this Post06-13-2002 07:10 PM Click Here to See the Profile for The AuraSend a Private Message to The AuraDirect Link to This Post
it was probably just being r&d'ed and never made it into production
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Report this Post06-13-2002 08:08 PM Click Here to See the Profile for vengerSend a Private Message to vengerDirect Link to This Post
That sounds like a great deal. It's about time.
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1992 was a long time ago. Now i'm sad again. They pulled our legs!!!
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Report this Post06-13-2002 09:53 PM Click Here to See the Profile for PaulJKSend a Private Message to PaulJKDirect Link to This Post
1992 ?!! I'd say you haven't found one from the Fiero Store - you don't have to wait to call them - go to their on-line catalog....
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Report this Post06-13-2002 10:13 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Slammed FieroSend a Private Message to Slammed FieroDirect Link to This Post
All you old schoolers 5 years + in Fiero's probably saw the article on the Paxton unit that was used on a v6 , mounted on the Left side of the engine , with a shaft driving the unit off of the right side accessory. The car was in the 13's.

Something like this is pretty plauseable to do. You need a bracket for the SC drive pulley , sealed bearing , Mounting bracket for the blower itself , depending on what kind of boost numbers you want , you may want bigger injectors , and a Dynotuner piggy back system.

Would be great to have the low end grunt an SC provides... But with 3.8SC's with low miles for under $2000 , it seems kind of pointless.

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Report this Post06-13-2002 10:17 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Dennis LaGruaSend a Private Message to Dennis LaGruaDirect Link to This Post
Guys with just a little help from a race car exhaust shop or a person who is a plumber and a good mig welder; you can install a turbo yourself. It' s basically just a plumbing job. You buy the turbo the bends and the mounting flange and put it all together.
As for the tuning and a "plug in" ECM turbo chip; I'm refining this as we speak.
As for a supercharger for the 2.8L, 3.1L, 3.4L PR family; there is just not enough room in the Fiero engine compartment to keep the A/C and add a supercharger, but someone may yet prove me wrong

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Report this Post06-13-2002 10:33 PM Click Here to See the Profile for FieroGT87Send a Private Message to FieroGT87Direct Link to This Post
I was thinking the same thing. But the trouble I have is the ECM. What changes need to take place there with the chip. I know I don't have the expertise to burn a chip for the changes.

I haven't looked at the engine bay close yet, but my initial thought was to move the battery to the front, make a bracket for a Vortec and measure for a longer belt. I have side scoops that are functional on both sides of the GT. So I was thinking I could bring the cold air in from the passenger side.

Designing is the hard part. I know a few people that can weld and bend me some tubing. Also a couple of machinist that could make the plates I need to bolt it up.

I just need someone to make a chip for me.

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Report this Post06-13-2002 10:36 PM Click Here to See the Profile for PhilSend a Private Message to PhilDirect Link to This Post
There was/is a place in Canada selling a supercharger kit for the 2.8. The unit mounts where the A/C compressor would go.
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Originally posted by Slammed Fiero:
Would be great to have the low end grunt an SC provides... But with 3.8SC's with low miles for under $2000 , it seems kind of pointless.

JM

Slammed,

Not really pointless, The cost can be more than most think. With the 2.8 no kits are needed for the engine just creating one for the S/C. The 3.8 S/C will cost around $1800 plus if you buy a kit from Twin lakes that will cost you $3500.00?

So can you modify a 2.8, bore and stroke it to 3.3-3.4 and put a S/C on it for less than that. I think so. Less HP maybe, maybe not over the stock 3.8 S/C.

Just a thought.

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Originally posted by Phil:
There was/is a place in Canada selling a supercharger kit for the 2.8. The unit mounts where the A/C compressor would go.

"Will" gave us this link in the other thread. http://webhome.idirect.com/~rsm1/

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Why a supercharger you ask?
1. Ease of installation vs Turbo.
2. Comparable HP increase
3. Self contained oil system
4. No x-tra heat buildup
5. no turbo lag
6. no need for intercooler

Um, I think number 6 is not entirely accurate. Most of the heat generated from a turbo, and a supercharger is by the compression of the air alone. I believe that a turbo only adds about 10%-20% to the overall heat increase compared to a supercharger. I would still run an intercooler with an SC. One of the reasons why you don't see many inter/after coolers on aftermarket supercharger kits is because most of them are not running more than 7 or 9 lbs of boost. Still, an intercooler would be effective. Check out thrasher's intercooler kit for the 3800 series II SC engine which increased power by 40hp and greatly reduced the engine's tendancy to detonate.

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Originally posted by Dennis LaGrua:
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As for a supercharger for the 2.8L, 3.1L, 3.4L PR family; there is just not enough room in the Fiero engine compartment to keep the A/C and add a supercharger, but someone may yet prove me wrong

Heh...stop over sometime and see where mine's going Plenty of room...if you do a little reengineering. I do need a jack shaft made though.

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Report this Post06-14-2002 10:22 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Alex4mulaSend a Private Message to Alex4mulaDirect Link to This Post
Well... Going back to 1989-90s someone here who was really into Fieros then (like me!) could probably remember this. At some point during that time there was a company offering an Eaton type supercharger system for the Fiero. It replaced the intake manifold with the supercharger setup similar to the SVT Mustangs and Lightning. I remember the pictures and the price was between $2k-$3K then. I remember dreaming about that setup then and that someday I would be able to buy it. Later on (91-93?) was that company with the twin turbo setup. I don't know if any of those superchargers was ever made or sold. But at least I remember seen the advertisement in a magazine for at least 6 months. Anyone here remembers that one?

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Alex4mula,

I think I saw the unit you are talking about on p. 15 of _Fiero Owner_ (3rd Quarter 1990). There is a reprint of an article that appeared in _Sport Compact Car_ (Fall 1990, pp. 44-47) which had a photo of an '87 Fiero GT with a KF supercharger (owned by Ray Fageol). It looks just as you describe it.

Slammed Fiero,

I have the magazine that article appeared in (_High Performance Pontiac_ Feb. 1992). I posted the relevant text in another recent thread. See https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum2/HTML/023434.html

I neglected to post the name of that Fiero's owner in the other thread. It was Randy O'Donahue of Haskell, NJ. The article said he owned his own machine shop.

If anyone has a similar setup with either type of supercharger, please post.

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I think I may have found Randy O'Donahue. Check out the following threads:
http://www.carrollsupercharging.com/LS1/LS1-08.pdf
http://www.carrollsupercharging.com/index2.html

I sent an email to them inviting him to comment in the forum. Maybe he can give us some more advice.

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