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Blue Box Blues by ls3mach
Started on: 04-22-2002 02:46 PM
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Report this Post04-22-2002 02:46 PM Click Here to See the Profile for ls3machSend a Private Message to ls3machDirect Link to This Post
On the passenger side there is a little blue box. I hate this thing. If it is in and I turn the lights on it rings constently. So I ripped it out now I have no chime. What is this blue boxes deal. My mom used to have a Fiero, 84 SE, and she said hers did the same thing what do I do. I like the chime for leaving the lights on or the keys in the ignition. Is this a common problem.

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Report this Post04-22-2002 03:48 PM Click Here to See the Profile for robertjaySend a Private Message to robertjayDirect Link to This Post
This will explain how to modify your chime box for what you do and do not want it reminding you of.
http://home.xnet.com/~nife/articles/tt-warningchimes.html
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Report this Post04-22-2002 04:43 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Alex4mulaSend a Private Message to Alex4mulaDirect Link to This Post
My 2nd Fiero didn't come with it. For 1st time in 14 years I left my lights on and of course required a jump start. Next weekend I found one and instsalled it back. I also have noticed that some are louder than others. Anyway, some can live with it and some without it...
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Report this Post04-22-2002 04:46 PM Click Here to See the Profile for ls3machSend a Private Message to ls3machDirect Link to This Post
Yes, but anytime the lights are turned on is when it chimes even when I am driving

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Report this Post04-22-2002 04:56 PM Click Here to See the Profile for robertjaySend a Private Message to robertjayDirect Link to This Post
Sounds like the wire from ignition switch is not signalling the blue box. It signals the box that the ignition is on and therefore should shut off that chime for the headlights. It's the pink with the black stripe wire.
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Report this Post04-22-2002 06:57 PM Click Here to See the Profile for MonkeymanSend a Private Message to MonkeymanDirect Link to This Post
First, the proper terminology is "blue dingy thingy". Gotta get that one straight. Go to Ogres cave. He has at least one write up about that. It's a POS right from the factory. I removed mine and now want to fix it and reinstall it but I can't find the damn thing.
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Report this Post04-22-2002 08:30 PM Click Here to See the Profile for theogreClick Here to visit theogre's HomePageSend a Private Message to theogreDirect Link to This Post
There are two versions of the chime box. The first version seems pretty solid and I'm not aware of any design issue with it. That doesn't mean it can't go bad. The first version box opens on one of the largest sides.

The second version of the box is defective from the factory. The info to fix the defect is in my cave. The second version box opens from the small end opposite the terminals. If you can't solder or aren't fairly good at it, then find someone who can do it for you.... the circuit board is fairly easy to damage if you aren't careful. (It's a bit hard to heat the heavy metal bridge and not burn the trace off the board.) Don't forget to remove the plastic thing from the bridge or you will melt it.

I believe the two boxes are directly interchangable.

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Report this Post04-22-2002 11:08 PM Click Here to See the Profile for ls3machSend a Private Message to ls3machDirect Link to This Post
I have the 2nd one. It opens from the top. I cannot soldier. is there any other way. Or can you get new ones from autozone maybe?

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Report this Post04-22-2002 11:51 PM Click Here to See the Profile for theogreClick Here to visit theogre's HomePageSend a Private Message to theogreDirect Link to This Post
The last part number I had for it is in my cave. 10037040 try a dealer, GMpartsdirect.com. GMpartsdirect.com still lists them. ($35 plus shipping) some dealer inventories may also have them.

you may also want to try AC delco # 999373 distcribed as "WARNING PKG,HDLP" in the AC delco catalog. There is no picture so I'm not sure that's really it.... You'll probably have to special order it, which adds problems of it's own.

You can also try digging thru other GM cars in the salvage yards. Allot of them should still have the GM number printed right on them.... I'm told this thing was used in allot of other low end cars.


save the dead ones, even if you replace it. I'm working on something and will need a few dead ones. (No, I'm not sure how soon.... I'll make an announcement if/when I have useful info.)

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Report this Post04-23-2002 06:41 AM Click Here to See the Profile for GTDudeDirect Link to This Post
Hell go to the junk yard and just try a bunch till you find one that will work. Yours is bad.

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Report this Post04-23-2002 11:01 AM Click Here to See the Profile for theogreClick Here to visit theogre's HomePageSend a Private Message to theogreDirect Link to This Post
I was able to find them listed at partsamerica.com

AC DELCO 999373 $10.99

use part number search. Again, I'm not 100% sure it's the right part. If anyone finds out it is the correct item please post it.

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Report this Post04-23-2002 11:17 PM Click Here to See the Profile for theogreClick Here to visit theogre's HomePageSend a Private Message to theogreDirect Link to This Post

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if that is correct.... I don't need dead ones. not worth fixing them for that.

The dealers also seem to use this number in addition to the GM number. (If you do a parts search at ACdelco.com you get thousands of vehicles using the thing from 96 back to 82.)

I've now declaired the cave article on this topic officially dead. It got it's last update today.

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Report this Post04-24-2002 03:16 PM Click Here to See the Profile for dizmon_85GTSend a Private Message to dizmon_85GTDirect Link to This Post
Checked with my Pontiac dealer and the AC DELCO 999373 is a universal headlight warning that is a very small buzzer case with two wires running from it. I would say that is not what you want. I think the GM part# 10037040 is the right one although I have not seen one.
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Report this Post04-24-2002 07:39 PM Click Here to See the Profile for theogreClick Here to visit theogre's HomePageSend a Private Message to theogreDirect Link to This Post
Well that sucks.....

You can get the 10037040 chime unit from GM parts direct and some dealers. It's $30-40 bucks at GMPD. Maybe I'll look into fixing them after all. Even GMPD says limmited stock on them.

That means I'm back to looking for some dead ones to develope the repair and test setup. I figure I can do them pretty cheap, but I have to decide how people will pay for it. (Which is allot harder than figuring the repairs. No, I'm not doing sPay Pal or anything like it.)

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Report this Post04-25-2002 04:01 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Riceburner98Send a Private Message to Riceburner98Direct Link to This Post
I've got a "dead" blue dingy-thingy if you want it.. Squeeze it and it works. I couldn't find any cracked solder to reflow, so I just stuck in another one from a junkyard car. I hung onto it thinking that you might want it. E-mail me at riceburner98@attbi.com and I can send it to ya... - Bob W

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Report this Post05-11-2002 01:32 PM Click Here to See the Profile for dizmon_85GTSend a Private Message to dizmon_85GTDirect Link to This Post
Just received my "Blue dingy thingy" from GMpartsdirect.com p/n 10037040
as theogre stated and it's the real thing! The only draw back is it is a discontinued part and non-returnable for any reason. $35.32 plus $9.95 shipping and handling. I'm sure it's limited availiblity part so if anyone wants one don't hesitate.
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Report this Post05-12-2002 02:45 PM Click Here to See the Profile for ls3machSend a Private Message to ls3machDirect Link to This Post
Man that is expensive. I did not think this was an active thread any longer. Thanks for the update.

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