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Brake upgrade with Camaro & Cadillac calipers by Will
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Report this Post04-03-2002 09:56 PM Click Here to See the Profile for WillSend a Private Message to WillDirect Link to This Post
I hear people talking all the time about a brake upgrade with Camaro & Cadillac calipers. Exactly which years of Camaro and which models & years Cadillac? How much of a bracket is necessary in the rear?
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Report this Post04-03-2002 10:10 PM Click Here to See the Profile for fierosoundClick Here to visit fierosound's HomePageSend a Private Message to fierosoundDirect Link to This Post
The complete article with details is here http://www.ipass.net/~fieroman/terranexus//fieroman/walt/walt.htm
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Report this Post04-03-2002 10:14 PM Click Here to See the Profile for 85JoshSend a Private Message to 85JoshDirect Link to This Post
Try here http://www.terranexus.com/fieroman/brakes/brakes.htm
This article lists everything.

Hmm, great minds think alike! Fierosound posted while I was searching for my link. His is more direct.

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Report this Post04-03-2002 10:27 PM Click Here to See the Profile for WillSend a Private Message to WillDirect Link to This Post
The first one was the one I was looking for. Thanks.
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Report this Post04-04-2002 12:01 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Slammed FieroSend a Private Message to Slammed FieroDirect Link to This Post
I have it
I love it

89 Camaro calipers
Chrysler Lebaron rotors


hand of god stopping power

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Report this Post04-04-2002 12:10 AM Click Here to See the Profile for WillSend a Private Message to WillDirect Link to This Post
I thought you had Wilwood calipers?
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Report this Post04-04-2002 12:24 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Slammed FieroSend a Private Message to Slammed FieroDirect Link to This Post
I have 3 sets of calipers for the fronts

Wilwood 4 pistons that wor great on the track , but chatter on the street

1Le camaro Calipers with bigger pistons than the stock units

and Stock 89 Calipers.

I want to try the wilwoods again , but haven't had the time to play with the car , been busy finishing my degree

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Report this Post04-04-2002 12:30 AM Click Here to See the Profile for WillSend a Private Message to WillDirect Link to This Post
Do they all miraculously use the same mounting pattern/offset?
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Report this Post04-04-2002 12:31 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Slammed FieroSend a Private Message to Slammed FieroDirect Link to This Post
No , the wilwoods have different brackets and spacers , I have the Cad files for them. The 1Le units are identical tot he stock camaro units

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Report this Post04-04-2002 03:39 AM Click Here to See the Profile for onfireSend a Private Message to onfireDirect Link to This Post
How do/did you like the 1LE calipers? My brake upgrade has been delayed for another month. I am trying to get my truck running, so I have something to drive.

Some people have winter projects. Mine has turned into a big summer project. I am replacing more than the brakes.

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Report this Post04-04-2002 08:24 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Slammed FieroSend a Private Message to Slammed FieroDirect Link to This Post
I love the 1LE calipers. I still have the stock calipers and take them with me to the track just incase something happens.

The brakes work great , they haul the car down from any speed quickly and with little drama. There are a few little tricks you can do to get the system working better.

removing the spring in the balancer is one of them. It just balances the brakes more towards the rear than the stock setup.

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Report this Post04-04-2002 08:49 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Custom84cpSend a Private Message to Custom84cpDirect Link to This Post
Hello, I sell the brackets for this kit, drilled tapped painted high temp black.
$175 plus $15 shipping.
Contact me at boostedfiero@yahoo.com
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Report this Post04-04-2002 09:12 AM Click Here to See the Profile for WillSend a Private Message to WillDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by Custom84cp:
Hello, I sell the brackets for this kit, drilled tapped painted high temp black.
$175 plus $15 shipping.
Contact me at boostedfiero@yahoo.com

Sorry, buying them ain't my style. I'll make my own.

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Report this Post04-04-2002 09:18 AM Click Here to See the Profile for WillSend a Private Message to WillDirect Link to This Post

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Now I know what year Cadillac calipers to look at...

Are the Caddy or Camaro calipers by chance cast in aluminum?
Would a differential piston Wilwood possibly be better for the street?

What I'm really after is an aluminum calipered rear brake setup which will bolt onto A-body hub carriers. These are almost exactly like early Fiero hub carriers, except for the larger bearing hole and the caliper mounts moved out radially. Using all A-body parts adds 13 lbs of unsprung weight per side to the rear. I was hoping to claw some of that back by getting rid of the A-body 10.2 x 1 rotors and cast iron calipers and going to 10.2 x .8 rotors and cast aluminum calipers with parking brake stuff.

I'm not sure if the parts exist for that, though.

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Report this Post04-04-2002 09:54 AM Click Here to See the Profile for PhilphineSend a Private Message to PhilphineDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by Custom84cp:
Hello, I sell the brackets for this kit, drilled tapped painted high temp black.
$175 plus $15 shipping.
Contact me at boostedfiero@yahoo.com

i've been wanting to get some from you but i just need the fronts (using them with an '88 rear brake setup). did you ever find out if i could just get the front pair?

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Report this Post04-04-2002 07:52 PM Click Here to See the Profile for WillSend a Private Message to WillDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by Slammed Fiero:
No , the wilwoods have different brackets and spacers , I have the Cad files for them. The 1Le units are identical tot he stock camaro units

What format are these drawings?
Would you mind e-mailing them to me?

Thanks.

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Report this Post04-04-2002 08:23 PM Click Here to See the Profile for hellfish87gtClick Here to visit hellfish87gt's HomePageSend a Private Message to hellfish87gtDirect Link to This Post
hey slammed, that looks SWEET what drop are you running and what kit is it, and from where.

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Report this Post04-05-2002 03:29 PM Click Here to See the Profile for VISCERALSend a Private Message to VISCERALDirect Link to This Post
What you coould do is get the Wilwood GmIII's
there identical to the regular camaro's but with bigger pistons and they are all aluminum.

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1987 Fiero GT, 5 spd, sunroof CDF clutch, Koni's all around, Ground Control coilovers in the rear, lowered 2" -dropped spindles-front, poly bushings: control arms-sway bars-cradle-motor-dogbone, rear sway bar, pioneer cd player, 180 stat, 176-166 fan switch, MSD Coil, Rodney Dickman's short shifter, bushings, etc..., 11.25" big brakes w/Ebrake, k&n filter, I have a 3800SC SII that's goin in soon, + 17x7.5 MiM Venezias wheels + 225/45/17 and 235/40/17's ---------------Also have a 1996 3800 Series II 25k MOTOR FOR SALE.

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What you could do is get the Wilwood GmIII's
there identical to the regular camaro's but with bigger pistons and they are all aluminum.

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Patrick Szewczyk
1987 Fiero GT, 5 spd, sunroof CDF clutch, Koni's all around, Ground Control coilovers in the rear, lowered 2" -dropped spindles-front, poly bushings: control arms-sway bars-cradle-motor-dogbone, rear sway bar, pioneer cd player, 180 stat, 176-166 fan switch, MSD Coil, Rodney Dickman's short shifter, bushings, etc..., 11.25" big brakes w/Ebrake, k&n filter, I have a 3800SC SII that's goin in soon, + 17x7.5 MiM Venezias wheels + 225/45/17 and 235/40/17's ---------------Also have a 1996 3800 Series II 25k MOTOR FOR SALE.

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Report this Post04-05-2002 03:59 PM Click Here to See the Profile for WillSend a Private Message to WillDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by VISCERAL:
What you coould do is get the Wilwood GmIII's
there identical to the regular camaro's but with bigger pistons and they are all aluminum.

That sounds like a good idea for a future project, but I've already got a pair of dynalites. How much do the GMIII's cost? Wilwood finally sent me their latest catalog, but it doesn't have a price list.

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Report this Post04-07-2002 11:55 AM Click Here to See the Profile for lowCGSend a Private Message to lowCGDirect Link to This Post
Will,is there any way to use the Fiero rear hubs in the larger bearing/hub carrier?
To keep the stock wheel bolt pattern that is.
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Will,is there any way to use the Fiero rear hubs in the larger bearing/hub carrier?
To keep the stock wheel bolt pattern that is.

You could have an adapter ring machined... but why?

The aforementioned Camaro & Cadillac upgrade using mounting brackets on stock hub carriers is functionally exactly what you'd end up with using the A-body hub carriers with no brackets, except that the A-body setup would weigh more. Depending on the cost of the adapter ring, the A-body setup might be cheaper.

In my eyes, the whole point of doing the A-body conversion is to have the 115 bolt circle. I did it to fit a set of 16x8 Grand Prix Turbo wheels I found in a local junkyard. I don't like that I have accept that kind of weight penalty and give up my parking brake.

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Report this Post04-07-2002 12:19 PM Click Here to See the Profile for CooterSend a Private Message to CooterDirect Link to This Post
For what it's worth: The Wilwood GMIII's have a 2.75 inch piston, but the 1LE "heavy duty" Camaro caliper is aluminum and has 2 pistons that are 1.5 inch each.
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