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When making new brake lines, does flare type matter? by Adrift
Started on: 03-02-2002 07:07 PM
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Last post by: GTDude on 03-02-2002 11:32 PM
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Report this Post03-02-2002 07:07 PM Click Here to See the Profile for AdriftClick Here to visit Adrift's HomePageSend a Private Message to AdriftDirect Link to This Post
I'm currently in the process of replacing my crappy old brake lines. I know everyone speaks of "Doublebubble flaires" or something like that. I picked up a flairing tool, and have been able to flare the lines no problem so the connector pieces don't fall off. I don't know though If I'm making a "double" flare or not. How important is it to make this other type of flare, and how do you go about doing it? My flaring kit came with a whole bunch of adapter piece thigns, but didn't come with instructions on what to do with them.
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Report this Post03-02-2002 07:45 PM Click Here to See the Profile for FieroJoeSend a Private Message to FieroJoeDirect Link to This Post
In my experience, there are three different types of flares:

1: Household gas line flare, used on flex hose connections between gas feed and dryer/furnace/stove etc.

2: Automotive flare, like in AN style fittings. Same principle as above (single flare), but the angle is different and the threads difference so they arent compatible. One is 37 degrees and the other 42 I think.

3: Brake and Cluch double flare. This is what you need to be using. On the above two, when you get done flaring the pipe, the pipe itself will have a concave flare, where as the fittings have the convex type. The opposite applies to the double flare. The pipe will have a convex flare, the bubble you might be talking about, and then the fittings have a machined out part inside of them to accept the flared end.

Id go to a repair shop or even a clutch and brake specialist place and ask them how to use the tool if you can't find instructions.

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Report this Post03-02-2002 08:12 PM Click Here to See the Profile for AdriftClick Here to visit Adrift's HomePageSend a Private Message to AdriftDirect Link to This Post
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Report this Post03-02-2002 08:25 PM Click Here to See the Profile for 85GTorontoSend a Private Message to 85GTorontoDirect Link to This Post
I don't know the technical names and shapes but I know there ARE different types and yes it is VERY important they match up. We are talking about high pressure here and needless to say brakes are kinda important!
Make sure you do this right or find someone to do it right for you!
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Report this Post03-02-2002 08:41 PM Click Here to See the Profile for AdriftClick Here to visit Adrift's HomePageSend a Private Message to AdriftDirect Link to This Post
I've been practicing on my extra line and I'm pretty sure I got the hang of it - I'll be posting pictures of the flare I created later and hopefully someone will be able to recognize if its proper or not
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Report this Post03-02-2002 10:30 PM Click Here to See the Profile for FierowreckerClick Here to visit Fierowrecker's HomePageSend a Private Message to FierowreckerDirect Link to This Post
Hey Joe!
It's funny you mention AN fittings (Army/Navy), as they are used on aircraft hydrolic lines with a SINGLE flare...
Not to mention, the fittings are aluminum, as are most of the lines...
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Report this Post03-02-2002 11:12 PM Click Here to See the Profile for FormulaJoeSend a Private Message to FormulaJoeDirect Link to This Post
I think the reason they want the double flare is safety. Double flare has more material at the junction of the fitting and the tube. In a critical system like brakes you want that little extra margin of safety.

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Report this Post03-02-2002 11:32 PM Click Here to See the Profile for GTDudeDirect Link to This Post
yeah joe.....i agree it's for strength.

Hey you should put a 3.4 in my yellow formula too....it's only fair! LOL

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