Where have you guys been all this time...?

I stumbled on this forum 2-3 days ago...

I searched for any engine combo and all the combos SUCK! and too expensive for even a LONGITUDINAL setup... also for a PORSCHE TRANSAXLE?

What a waste of time and money and energy hunting PORSHE garbage...

CHRYSLER'S 300M has a TRANSAXLE type front wheel drive set up.... LONGITUDINAL type...
also your you FERRARI kit dreamers... it also has a SEQUENTIAL sport shift!

Take a look at CHRYSLER.com

CHEAP, EFFICIENT and EASY 255horsepower... much more than a V8 and you get much much more.

AND ITS CHRYSLER PARTS.... no PORSHE GARBAGE...

Sorry for ramblin on and on but I wish I had money to put one these babies in...

Take careeee everyone,
Pete

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"CHEAP, EFFICIENT and EASY 255horsepower... much more than a V8 and you get much much more"
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255 horse much much more than a v8? maybe a can of tomato v8

A stock CHEVY Corvette has 282RWHP...
Thats a 5.7liter V8 compare to a 3.5 v6

I think the V6 wins hands down on power per liter... another 100 horses it will be in the same liter/hp range as a V8 3.5 FERRARI F355 engine. Since the F355 V8 engine is a 3.5liter and produces 350RWHP and IS available in a SEQUENTIAL type of a shift...
You can put the Chrysler technology into a paddle shift design.

So many possiblities...

Sorry but taking a 280hp 5.7liter and wasting so much for GASOLINE expense and to top it off... with hassling of a PORSHE transaxle... wish alone is about $4k and forget about the SERVICE and upgrades... also then SPEND an extra $3k for a superchager to make it faster??????

Ahhh enuf of my ramblin... im sure you guys can seee the light...

Later
PeTe

To get the HiPo 3.5 and transaxle from a LHS/300M into a Fiero you would need to either stretch the frame or cut your trunk out and mount the engine backwards and get the transmission to work mounted backwards. I've eyeballed the engine in my LHS several times, the axles are just way to far back to be functional in a Fiero without a 10-15 inch frame stretch, probably at the very least. The axles on that transmission come out (obviously) a LONG way rearward of the stock fiero axle location in relation to the engine placement.

At that point you have to either build your own body around the 'new' frame or drop 10 large on a diablo kit to cover up the modification.

Then again, maybe its not that hard to get the transmission to go the other direction, i doubt it though,

V8 archie kit 900.00

New GM crate Motor 3000.00 (375 hp)

Smokeing a porche priceless

OH MY GOD -- there are people as warped as me
My wife has a concord 3.3 and Ive eyeballed that thing a couple times myself

I don't know about the 3,3 but the hipo 3,5 HAULS.... just think how nice either would look under a windowed decklid
250 horse along with the longitudinal look would justify the electronics nightmare getting everything to work together....but the size...ugh.
Could always have a V-belt for an armrest

its perfect for the diablo builder if its the case to stretch the car...

but i highly doubt you would have to do all that to make the tranny turn the other way...

something about reverse rotation... i wish i still had that link to the guys website... he turned somethings around and everyghing went counter clock...

ahhh but you gotta admit that 300m hauls ass... also imagine a SEQUENTIAL SHIFT... woahhhhhhhh ur out of thereee...

i can't wait til the 3.4 TDC guys get a hold of this one and tear this new guy apart...

dude, the swap would be WAY easier to just bolt in a 3.4 TDC gm engine than to try to cram chrysler products in there.

and for the money you'd spend trying to wedge that 300M engine in there with the longitudinal transmission (read: automatic), you could buy yourself a nice 6 speed sequential FWD touring car racing gearbox and bolt that sucker in- with a shift-no-lift ignition mod too.

just imagine revving to 7500RPM and just pulling back on the gear lever and having it bang into the next gear without even feeling it...

...i think i just had an accident...

Speaking of wild and outrageous, My brother had a1.8t vw gti that he rolled long and sad story... my brother is OK not even a scratch however the car is not. It got written off. Poor car. I have been drooling over that engine ever since he got the car. It a sick engine.

I love the idea of longitudual mounted engine in a fiero but it would have to be manual none of this lazy man shifting nonesense. I am very old school!!! And I am only 25!

The Chrysler 3.5s from 1994 to 1996 produces 215 hp but by removing the reducer that they place in the air filter pipe you gain 40 hp. If anyone of you has this engine just remove it and let the engine breathe. This all aluminum engine was designed by Lamborghini when chrysler owned them. It was replaced by the new 3.5L because the torque would damage the differential in the transmission (which comes in autostick).

I've driven a real F355 (non-sequential though) Incredible car.

I'm building up a Northstar V8 to about 400bhp (out of 4.6litres) which will bolt right up to the Fiero tranny.

GM made a Ferrari eater, some assembley required!

PS: that auto-stick tranny is just a slush box.

Ferrari's system is a true sequential shifted gearbox ala Formula 1.

PPS: Porsche transaxels are awesome, 930 and 993 gearboxes can withstand 800bhp easially and quite reliably.

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Ben Cannon
88 Formula, T-top, Metalic Red. "Every Man Dies, not every man really Lives"
88 Formula, Northstar, Silver, In-Progreess. -Mel Gibson, "Braveheart"

As a rough measurement, there is @ 35" from the axle centerline to the firewall in a Diablo with a 10.5" frame stretch. This measurement can be increased, but it takes carefull work to go further.

Next time your near one of these beasts, take a measurement. I saw one of these transmissions on ebay for $700. I also think it would be no big deal to get an adaptor plate made up to go with a Chevy small block.

David Breeze

That may actually be doable in a diablo then. I just measured my LHS, from center of axle to the front of the belts is 32". Thats with zero clearence mind you, and have fun changing belts 35" could be enough.
For reference, measurement from center of axle to the firewall on a Fiero is roughly 18", give or take an inch, my garage is quite crowded

Wow..ignorance is Bliss for some people.

The G50 in our 94 handles 417hp 3.8 and is driven daily. Keep your chrysler slushbox. It may look good on paper , but please don't compare it to the finess of a 911 tranny.

Go look up Rod simpson Hybirds on the net. That guy is putting small blocks behind 901 trannies with no problems.

There is a reason a used 911 tranny costs $4500 , there indestricutible for the most part. Plus with a LSD there killer on the track.

I can speak from experience that reversing an engine or tranny to it's intended direction is not a good idea (Reverse rotation aluminum 8 in a vair) Thrust surfaces are compromised greatly.

We had this discussion on the fastvair list a while ago. I think you mean flipping the ring gear on the tranny. Works for VW beetle trannies that are fairly crude indesign , but will not work on newer trannies.

Get a hewland or ZF tranny , not a chrysler , you want bulletproof for low cost go with a toro tranny.

I think you need to go do some research before you come on here and slam people buddy. Their are quite a few knowledgeable people on this forum that have lives outside fiero's and have driven cars that most would consider to be the best in the world. needless to say none of them are chrysler.

is Blackstang back?

PS, for all you N* guys out there running the auto you can get a padle type setup for the stock GM tranny , you can also program the shift points.

I have never been impressed with reworked stock trannies that are suppose to give a "sport appeal" they all think too much.

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Jonathan McCreery
86 GT 4spd
Koni's , Coilovers, Big Bars , 17" Trmotorsports Typhoons , 11.25" vented discs, Wilwood 4 Piston Calipers , Pirelli P Zero's, Short Shift, No cat , Cold air induction , Geni Stainless tips, White face gauges , Momo shift , momo pedals, Big Bore TB, 70Hp Shot of NOS Autocrossed , Tracked , Dragged? (soon) abused.

"PS, for all you N* guys out there running the auto you can get a padle type setup for the stock GM tranny , you can also program the shift points"

Can I get some info on this? Thx!

A guy on the corvair list is doing this , he has the setup all done...

I will track down some info for you.

JM

quote Originally posted by Slammed Fiero: A guy on the corvair list is doing this , he has the setup all done... I will track down some info for you. JM

Same here, please.

Hell, I was designing my own... I want info, too!

[QUOTE]Originally posted by lou:
[B]The Chrysler 3.5s from 1994 to 1996 produces 215 hp but by removing the reducer that they place in the air filter pipe you gain 40 hp. If anyone of you has this engine just remove it and let the engine breathe.

I'm not trying to flame here, but 40hp? Does that actually sound realistic? I have a '96 'Trep with the 3.5l. The piece you're referring to is a silencer. It's just to quiet down the intake some. Removing it gives you a negligable hp and torque gain. If anything it sounds throughtier. I took mine out and like the way it sounds without it.

Ya i dunno about that 40hp piece of plastic either.... i had a 96 intrepid (215hp) and now have a 2000 LHS (260hp), and theres a lot more different than just a piece of plastic missing..... the hipo3.5 has a SINGLE throttle body (all previous 3.5s were dual throttle body), so unless that piece you remove for 40hp is a throttle body, theres more to it than that

OK, The Chrysler tranny is an automatic, i.e. uses a torque converter. The Porsche tranny is indestructable but expensive. Anything that is relatively cheap that you can shift sequencially?

The new MR2's have a sequencial tranny now, and it does use a clutch. Anyone know if these could be used in a fiero? (MR2- Mid-engine...transversly mounted...??)