I put new shocks in my SE a week ago. At first, the front was noticeably higher. Now, a week later, it looks like it's back to the original height. Is this normal? I'm not complaining or anything. I'm glad it went back down. Just wondering.
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Thanks for the replies, guys. I was contemplating on whether I should lower the front when I saw that it was higher. Glad I don't need to now.
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lowCG Member
Posts: 1510 From: seattle,WA U.S.A. Registered: Jun 99
I never heard of it either. Should be same from start to finish. shocks dont carry the car weight, the springs do. Shocks dont need a 'break in'. In fact your car should set the same with all the shocks removed as it does with them, just drive like total crap.
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lowCG Member
Posts: 1510 From: seattle,WA U.S.A. Registered: Jun 99
After the front end has been apart,all the bushings relax,the springs move a little in their seat,all somehow creating a raised effect until right around a week until it gradually goes back to normal. Guess the shocks didn't have much to do with it,but the process of replacing them did. The difference is usually about 3/8".
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rodmcneill Member
Posts: 1616 From: Indiana USA Registered: Oct 2000
Roger, that's what I thought, shocks don't control body height springs do. In a few other posts I have read of people installing shocks(especially KYB's) and talked about the body sitting higher. Shocks don't have enough upward pressure to lift a body, these cars are fairly heavy, even a gas charged shock could not lift it.
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rodmcneill Member
Posts: 1616 From: Indiana USA Registered: Oct 2000
According to the literature with my Gabriel shocks and struts, gas-pressurized units can raise ride height. On my car they did raise ride height, and after a year+ they haven't settled.
For your car, I buy the spring-and-bushing hypothesis.
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Oct 22nd, 2001
lowCG Member
Posts: 1510 From: seattle,WA U.S.A. Registered: Jun 99
Experience begs to differ... The high pressure gas shocks,like the KYB Gas-Adjust can require as much as 20#(?)to compress,on our cars that's like lifting up on the bumper that amount,since the two shocks are located halfway between the tire and bushing.
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Oct 23rd, 2001
MrPBody Member
Posts: 1787 From: Decatur, GA, USA Registered: Oct 2000
Gas pressurized shocks do carry a very small portion of the car's weight and slightly affect the ride height (not by much), hydraulic shocks do not.
Ideally, yes the springs are what hold up a car and the shocks work only as dampers.
For gas shocks (if there's any gas pressure left) they'll extend to full rebound when removed. If there wasn't any forces acting, the shock would remain at the same length when removed. The forces that make the shock extend must contribute to holding the car up.
I put gas charged shocks on the front of my Fiero last spring and did notice that the ride height was slightly higher than with the old worn out ones. It was about a 1/4", if that. Most people wouldn't be able to tell.
Sqoach, did you have the car up off the ground for a long time when you changed the shocks. Some of the settling could have been with bushings, etc.
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Originally posted by Tigger: Gas pressurized shocks do carry a very small portion of the car's weight and slightly affect the ride height (not by much), hydraulic shocks do not.
Ideally, yes the springs are what hold up a car and the shocks work only as dampers.
For gas shocks (if there's any gas pressure left) they'll extend to full rebound when removed. If there wasn't any forces acting, the shock would remain at the same length when removed. The forces that make the shock extend must contribute to holding the car up.
I put gas charged shocks on the front of my Fiero last spring and did notice that the ride height was slightly higher than with the old worn out ones. It was about a 1/4", if that. Most people wouldn't be able to tell.
Sqoach, did you have the car up off the ground for a long time when you changed the shocks. Some of the settling could have been with bushings, etc.
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It was probably an hour. Hour and a half at the most. I had the front up on jackstands. The back was still on the ground. So maybe the back was a bit lower after lowering the front, and the front was a bit higher. And now both front and back have settled back to the original position? That sound like a possibility?? The old shocks were bad, they were easy to compress, and wouldn't extend back. New ones were much harder to compress, and would extend back out in a few seconds.
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lowCG Member
Posts: 1510 From: seattle,WA U.S.A. Registered: Jun 99
Oh I agree,just re-iterating what you'd said MrP. I do know for certain that the KYBs can effect the ride height,usually a disapointment unless there are lower springs going in at the same time. I remember I was pretty freaked out the first time I set a fiero down after having the front end all apart and saw how high it was sitting at first.!
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MrPBody Member
Posts: 1787 From: Decatur, GA, USA Registered: Oct 2000