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How long should it take shocks to "settle" ??? by sqoach
Started on: 10-20-2001 12:28 AM
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Report this Post10-20-2001 12:28 AM Click Here to See the Profile for sqoachSend a Private Message to sqoachDirect Link to This Post
I put new shocks in my SE a week ago. At first, the front was noticeably higher. Now, a week later, it looks like it's back to the original height. Is this normal? I'm not complaining or anything. I'm glad it went back down. Just wondering.

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    Report this Post10-20-2001 12:33 AM Click Here to See the Profile for SleeperSend a Private Message to SleeperDirect Link to This Post
    a week is cool, they should be fine now.
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    Report this Post10-20-2001 12:36 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Cheever3000Send a Private Message to Cheever3000Direct Link to This Post
    Never heard of such a thing.
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    Report this Post10-20-2001 01:02 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Fiero*101Send a Private Message to Fiero*101Direct Link to This Post
    This is off subject
    but is your tail lights clear???

    if so how did you do that

    I have the same car you do same color same year but i dont have a wing and i want to do that to my tail lights

    thanks

    p.s. Glad to hear that you got a bra for your car sorry i couldnt help you out

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    Report this Post10-20-2001 02:29 AM Click Here to See the Profile for artherdClick Here to visit artherd's HomePageSend a Private Message to artherdDirect Link to This Post
    Yep, normal, about a week or so.

    Enjoy!

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    Report this Post10-20-2001 11:34 AM Click Here to See the Profile for sqoachSend a Private Message to sqoachDirect Link to This Post
    Thanks for the replies, guys. I was contemplating on whether I should lower the front when I saw that it was higher. Glad I don't need to now.

    Fiero*101-The tail lights were like that when I got it. But it's not very hard to do. Do a search on "clear taillights" in the technical and general sections. It's been talked about a few times here recently.

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    Report this Post10-20-2001 03:56 PM Click Here to See the Profile for lowCGSend a Private Message to lowCGDirect Link to This Post
    That's a good thing to remember so one doesn't run to the alignment shop too soon after front end work.Nothing like doing it twice.
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    Report this Post10-20-2001 09:55 PM Click Here to See the Profile for rogergarrisonSend a Private Message to rogergarrisonDirect Link to This Post
    I never heard of it either. Should be same from start to finish. shocks dont carry the car weight, the springs do. Shocks dont need a 'break in'. In fact your car should set the same with all the shocks removed as it does with them, just drive like total crap.

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    Report this Post10-20-2001 10:37 PM Click Here to See the Profile for lowCGSend a Private Message to lowCGDirect Link to This Post
    After the front end has been apart,all the bushings relax,the springs move a little in their seat,all somehow creating a raised effect until right around a week until it gradually goes back to normal.
    Guess the shocks didn't have much to do with it,but the process of replacing them did.
    The difference is usually about 3/8".
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    Report this Post10-20-2001 10:46 PM Click Here to See the Profile for rodmcneillSend a Private Message to rodmcneillDirect Link to This Post
    Roger, that's what I thought, shocks don't control body height springs do. In a few other posts I have read of people installing shocks(especially KYB's) and talked about the body sitting higher. Shocks don't have enough upward pressure to lift a body, these cars are fairly heavy, even a gas charged shock could not lift it.
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    Report this Post10-20-2001 10:49 PM Click Here to See the Profile for rodmcneillSend a Private Message to rodmcneillDirect Link to This Post

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    lowCG, that sounds more like what happens.
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    Report this Post10-21-2001 01:28 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Fiero*101Send a Private Message to Fiero*101Direct Link to This Post
    Thanks

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    Report this Post10-21-2001 12:57 PM Click Here to See the Profile for MrPBodyClick Here to visit MrPBody's HomePageSend a Private Message to MrPBodyDirect Link to This Post
    According to the literature with my Gabriel shocks and struts, gas-pressurized units can raise ride height. On my car they did raise ride height, and after a year+ they haven't settled.

    For your car, I buy the spring-and-bushing hypothesis.

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    Report this Post10-22-2001 09:28 PM Click Here to See the Profile for lowCGSend a Private Message to lowCGDirect Link to This Post
    Experience begs to differ...
    The high pressure gas shocks,like the KYB Gas-Adjust can require as much as 20#(?)to compress,on our cars that's like lifting up on the bumper that amount,since the two shocks are located halfway between the tire and bushing.

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    Report this Post10-23-2001 09:19 AM Click Here to See the Profile for MrPBodyClick Here to visit MrPBody's HomePageSend a Private Message to MrPBodyDirect Link to This Post
    Are we agreeing or disagreeing?
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    Report this Post10-23-2001 10:06 AM Click Here to See the Profile for TiggerSend a Private Message to TiggerDirect Link to This Post
    Gas pressurized shocks do carry a very small portion of the car's weight and slightly affect the ride height (not by much), hydraulic shocks do not.

    Ideally, yes the springs are what hold up a car and the shocks work only as dampers.

    For gas shocks (if there's any gas pressure left) they'll extend to full rebound when removed. If there wasn't any forces acting, the shock would remain at the same length when removed. The forces that make the shock extend must contribute to holding the car up.

    I put gas charged shocks on the front of my Fiero last spring and did notice that the ride height was slightly higher than with the old worn out ones. It was about a 1/4", if that. Most people wouldn't be able to tell.

    Sqoach, did you have the car up off the ground for a long time when you changed the shocks. Some of the settling could have been with bushings, etc.

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    Report this Post10-23-2001 01:00 PM Click Here to See the Profile for sqoachSend a Private Message to sqoachDirect Link to This Post
     
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    Originally posted by Tigger:
    Gas pressurized shocks do carry a very small portion of the car's weight and slightly affect the ride height (not by much), hydraulic shocks do not.

    Ideally, yes the springs are what hold up a car and the shocks work only as dampers.

    For gas shocks (if there's any gas pressure left) they'll extend to full rebound when removed. If there wasn't any forces acting, the shock would remain at the same length when removed. The forces that make the shock extend must contribute to holding the car up.

    I put gas charged shocks on the front of my Fiero last spring and did notice that the ride height was slightly higher than with the old worn out ones. It was about a 1/4", if that. Most people wouldn't be able to tell.

    Sqoach, did you have the car up off the ground for a long time when you changed the shocks. Some of the settling could have been with bushings, etc.

    [This message has been edited by Tigger (edited 10-23-2001).]

    It was probably an hour. Hour and a half at the most. I had the front up on jackstands. The back was still on the ground. So maybe the back was a bit lower after lowering the front, and the front was a bit higher. And now both front and back have settled back to the original position? That sound like a possibility?? The old shocks were bad, they were easy to compress, and wouldn't extend back. New ones were much harder to compress, and would extend back out in a few seconds.

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    Report this Post10-23-2001 10:28 PM Click Here to See the Profile for lowCGSend a Private Message to lowCGDirect Link to This Post
    Oh I agree,just re-iterating what you'd said MrP.
    I do know for certain that the KYBs can effect the ride height,usually a disapointment unless there are lower springs going in at the same time.
    I remember I was pretty freaked out the first time I set a fiero down after having the front end all apart and saw how high it was sitting at first.!
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    Report this Post10-23-2001 10:59 PM Click Here to See the Profile for MrPBodyClick Here to visit MrPBody's HomePageSend a Private Message to MrPBodyDirect Link to This Post
    Yep, my ride height came up about 1/2".
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    Report this Post10-24-2001 02:57 AM Click Here to See the Profile for rodmcneillSend a Private Message to rodmcneillDirect Link to This Post
    I learned something new, thanks guys. I thought the front of my 88 came up when I installed KYB's but I had never measured it.
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