I am restoring an 86SE and I am considering getting a chin spoiler. I sure like the way they look.

I have found two suppliers so far. Fieroshop and RSM, both in Canada. I like the RSM chin spoiler better because it has the center opening for air flow, however it is about $100 more ($250 total). It looks to me as though the Fieroshop design will not allow enough air flow for cooling, but I do like the lower cost, especially for something that has a high likelihood of getting broken. I would like to hear from people who have been running with the Fieroshop chin spoiler.

I will not even consider Outlaw after what I read in several posts.

Also, I think I will have the chin spoiler painted separately from the car and install after painting. This is because after I break the spoiler on a curb, the lower portion of the front facia will already have good paint coverage. Do you agree? TIA.
Paul

If you're almost certain you'll break it, why buy it? I've been wanting to get one, but the roads around here aren't very nice to low cars. I'm pretty sure Pat (ferrari_momo) is making one with the opening. Might talk to him and see. I personally like the one without the opening. However, I'd only want it to be about 2-3" low.

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The ideal chin spoiler would be made of rubber, but to my knowledge nobody has made one yet.

I've got the IRM part but haven't had the guts to put in on yet. Have heard too many people (with stock height cars) busting them up on speed bumps and other road trash.

is this a chin spoiler? If so where did you find them? I found one at IRM. The total was $189.00 I was going to send the order form out tomorrow, should I not. Cali kid do you want to sell yours?

Curb stops, steep driveways, speed bumps, and debris in the road are all hazards. It would be nice if we could get Wings West to make one out of urethane. Their parts are very durable and hold paint really well. Maybe they could make some urethane side scoops too! I gotta quit dreaming, I drive a Fiero not a Civic, a Fiero not a Celica, a Fiero not a.....

Rick 88

You might not want to mess with IRM. They seem to have a tendency to get very slow sending parts out. Plus, I hear that they are about to get bought out. (Just a rumor.) If FOCOA (the store, not the club) ever gets their website back online (maybe with pics this time?), you might try them.

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i have the chin spoiler with the opening but i got it from outlaw, and i ain't sending nobody there. as for the spoiler it's self, i like the look and i am being very careful about driving and parking. i scrape a lot but no out and out running into anything yet (except some small animal one night. very slight damage). i'm on fairly good sized tires and haven't lowered it. that i am afraid to do. i've also been playing with making it look like it's part of the facia so i haven't painted it either to see how bad the scraping shows.

i'd deal with irm before outlaw. i wouldn't deal with outlaw period. (hope irm stays in business a while longer. they've got stuff i want). i've got a few things from them and it may take a while but you can at least stay in contact with them. be warned. we're pretty sure outlaw has changed their name to fieromen on ebay.

I've replaced my IRM spoiler 4 times in five years! I'll keep replacing it! it looks awesome, but the roads kill it!!!! I would think twice about it but once you have it on your addicted!

I've never had a chin spoiler but have a lowered Fiero, here's my take on them.

If you plan to keep the stock ride height, chin spoilers will help aerodynamically and help to make the front of the car appear lower. Drive carefully and take drives at an angle you shouldn't have too much of a problem.

If you plan on lowering at all, I'd say it wouldn't last for very long.

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You all will like what I'm doing then...

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Did you get your car in my book yet????
http://www.animatedconcepts.com/fierobook.htm

Just thinking, but would it be possible to split an aero front on the spoiler line and insert a spacer so that the plastic part is the lowest? It would handle scrapes better but I don't know about the strength of the whole front end or seam.

Gary

quote Originally posted by Rick 88: Curb stops, steep driveways, speed bumps, and debris in the road are all hazards. It would be nice if we could get Wings West to make one out of urethane. Their parts are very durable and hold paint really well. Maybe they could make some urethane side scoops too! I gotta quit dreaming, I drive a Fiero not a Civic, a Fiero not a Celica, a Fiero not a..... Rick 88

Well, Both my chin spoiler and side scoops are made out of urethane. I have bumped the spoiler hard (Opps) and did not have any damage.

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skitime: Where did you get your side scoops and chin spoiler? Their dead sexy.

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quote Originally posted by Sootah: [b]skitime: Where did you get your side scoops and chin spoiler? Their dead sexy. [/B]

Well, I bought the Mecham scoops from Rockcrawl. They are the rare original Mecham side scoops that were made of urethane from the Pontiac molds. Unfortunately, the chin spoiler I made myself so you just can't go out a buy one.

quote Originally posted by FieroBUZZ: Just thinking, but would it be possible to split an aero front on the spoiler line and insert a spacer so that the plastic part is the lowest? It would handle scrapes better but I don't know about the strength of the whole front end or seam. Gary

This has already been done. There is a guy in California who has a large older site on a nice 3.4 DOHC conversion. He experimented with sectioning the nose. You can see the build up on his site. I think his site is listed in World Wide Fiero Links.

Rick
yellow 88 GT 5-speed

http://fiero.cc/fiero-tdc/members/mws/

Here is his website.

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Thanks for all the replys.

Skitime: Great job on that homemade chin spoiler. You really should market those.

Does anyone have a picture of the FOCOA chin spoiler? and the price?

Ambush: IRM's web site shows that their chin spoiler is $250 (US). Looks like you have negotiated a lower price.

quote Originally posted by PAUL88GT: Thanks for all the replys. Ambush: IRM's web site shows that their chin spoiler is $250 (US). Looks like you have negotiated a lower price.

I saw that on thier web site as well. I looked in the catalog and it's a little cheaper. Of course I'm ordering the cheaper one

A friend of mine had a Lambo replica. what he did to keep from scraping up the bottom of spoiler was mount a 1/2 of a steel wheel rollerskate on the frame on each side so that they barely came below the spoiler. If it hit something they roll and lift the car over it slightly. Im sure you could use some heavy duty casters from a hardware supply to do the same thing. That of course still wouldnt prevent animals and stuff in road from hitting it.

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Skitime: Wanna write up a tut on how to make that purdiefied chin spoiler? Or at least supply a bunch of photos from the construction proccess? (You did photograph it, didn't you...?

Check out this thread and scroll to the last pic to see my front spoiler: https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/006355.html
I purchased this around 1991 and installed in on my 85GT. FOCOA now sells it as the Kid Danger spoiler. Sorry about the pic quality, but if you lighten it up you may be able to see more detail. It's constructed of fiberglass and follows the molded line of the aero nose ground effect bumper cover, the bottom edge is straight. My car also had dropped spindles on it and I was concerned about damaging the nose if I bolted or bonded it on. It's a cheesy solution but it's saved my aero bumper cover several times now, I use velcro to keep it on. Other than suffering the embrassment of having to stop, get out, and reattach it, it works great. Downside of this spoiler is since the Fiero draws air from under the car (which is why everyone should make sure the small plastic lip that directs air up to the radiator is on their car) this spoiler limits air from going under the car, hence higher engine temps. Still, I prefer the look of this spoiler to other types I have seen. It's just a cleaner look to me.

quote Originally posted by ChopTop: Check out this thread and scroll to the last pic to see my front spoiler: https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/006355.html I purchased this around 1991 and installed in on my 85GT. FOCOA now sells it as the Kid Danger spoiler. Sorry about the pic quality, but if you lighten it up you may be able to see more detail. It's constructed of fiberglass and follows the molded line of the aero nose ground effect bumper cover, the bottom edge is straight. My car also had dropped spindles on it and I was concerned about damaging the nose if I bolted or bonded it on. It's a cheesy solution but it's saved my aero bumper cover several times now, I use velcro to keep it on. Other than suffering the embrassment of having to stop, get out, and reattach it, it works great. Downside of this spoiler is since the Fiero draws air from under the car (which is why everyone should make sure the small plastic lip that directs air up to the radiator is on their car) this spoiler limits air from going under the car, hence higher engine temps. Still, I prefer the look of this spoiler to other types I have seen. It's just a cleaner look to me.

Yes, the kid danger air dam. Best looking one I've seen. And the one I want. How much does it hang down compared to stock? i.e. 3"??? And I love the chop top. That's what I wish to do someday. Just too much money for me right now. Do you know if FOCOA is still selling that air dam? Price?
Maybe it would be easier if you just sold me your car??

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sqoach@yahoo.com

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84 SE (FOR SALE)*SOLD(?)*

85 Coupe (parts car)($50)*sale pending*

86 SC

Sqoach, It is about an inch lower on the sides and two inches lower in the front. I did not order this from FOCOA, I ordered mine from an individual who was selling it as part of a kit in 1991.

Call or email FOCOA and ask if they still carry the Kid Danger spoiler. If they do, I'd proceed with caution. I've heard both good and bad things about FOCOA's mail order transactions. Your best bet would be to see if a fellow forum member would act as a go-between for payment and shipment. Also, I'm not sure about the price, it's been several years since I was a FOCOA member, but it seems to me it was around $180??? Good luck.

I called FOCOA about 6 months ago to ask about the Kid Danger air dam. They said that they only had about 4 left and weren't planning on making/getting any more. I forget the reason. Anyone know if their store site is reopened and if so, do they have pics of their products now?

Maybe some other fiberglass producer could produce the Kid Danger airdam if FOCOA is not going to offer it. Any takers? I'd love to see Wings West make it in urethane. Maybe if we got enough committed buyers.

Rick 88

quote Originally posted by Rick 88: Maybe some other fiberglass producer could produce the Kid Danger airdam if FOCOA is not going to offer it. Any takers? I'd love to see Wings West make it in urethane. Maybe if we got enough committed buyers. Rick 88

Good idea. There's a few guys on here that could make those. Urethane would be nice, but pricey. I would buy one made out of fiberglass. I'd just have to be careful. Of course, that's what everyone says

I had the standard chin... I scraped it, then I bent it, ripped it, and then had to take it off because it looked like *****. When in good condition it looks great and adds to the cars character but unless your VERY carefull....which you could be it will get ruined. Basically if its an every day driver..don't get the spoiler.. or get the cheap one