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PCV Valve Function??? by Jncomutt
Started on: 07-13-2001 01:47 PM
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Report this Post07-13-2001 01:47 PM Click Here to See the Profile for JncomuttSend a Private Message to JncomuttDirect Link to This Post
I've heard of people removing the PCV valve on the 84 2.5 engine, and just putting one of those small breather filters there. Has anyone here done this?? What are the gains/losses of doin it, and is it worth it.

Also, what exactly does that damn thing do???

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Report this Post07-13-2001 02:24 PM Click Here to See the Profile for DecadenceRClick Here to visit DecadenceR's HomePageSend a Private Message to DecadenceRDirect Link to This Post
I've never heard of anyone removinf the PCV valve and putting a breather on... I have however heard of people removing the OEM style breather and replacing it with an open-element breather. However I would be interested in hearing more on this of anyone else has input?
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Report this Post07-13-2001 05:07 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Ken WittliefSend a Private Message to Ken WittliefDirect Link to This Post
PVC = positive ventalation crankcase or something like that - it sucks the hot oil fumes out of the engine block, and and exhaust that is blown past the rings into the crankcase.

in itself it doesnt do anything special, but the valve is connected to the intake manifold - so if you pull it off you have what is more or less a vacuum leak and you engine will run lean or rich, depending on which sensor gets screwed up the most.

the PVC valve cost about $3 at any parts store - if you have any doubts about its condition just get a new one - its not worth getting you hands greasy to even mess with the old one or to try and clean it - just throw it away and replace it.

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Report this Post07-13-2001 07:42 PM Click Here to See the Profile for rogergarrisonSend a Private Message to rogergarrisonDirect Link to This Post
all u have to do is pull it out and shake it. if it rattles its good. Its only a steel ball laying in a pocket.
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Report this Post07-13-2001 07:48 PM Click Here to See the Profile for theogreClick Here to visit theogre's HomePageSend a Private Message to theogreDirect Link to This Post
PVC? You have Poly Vynle Chloride plumbing in a car? (Teasing....)

PCV, positive crankcase vent, is there to protect the engine as well as the environment. You would not really want to remove that valve. Just replace it if you think it might be shot.

Sounds like you may be confused with/by people who removed the OE air cleaner and stuck somthing aftermarket on it. In that case you have to put a replacement filter of some kind on the PCV opening that used to be under the air cleaner neck.

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Report this Post07-14-2001 10:53 AM Click Here to See the Profile for FierowreckerClick Here to visit Fierowrecker's HomePageSend a Private Message to FierowreckerDirect Link to This Post
The PCV sucks blowby gasses out of the block...
The air filter you mentioned is used to replace the factory filter when the aircleaner is replaced...

Originally, the gasses were vented out of the engine and into the air, now they are sucked into the intake via the PCV valve...
You can replace the PCV valve and stock filter with push in filters, but you will have a lot of oil film covering the engine compartment, and dust likes to stick to the film!

Remember, the PCV is part of the emissions package and it is a federal crime to tamper with emission controls...
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Report this Post07-14-2001 01:55 PM Click Here to See the Profile for theogreClick Here to visit theogre's HomePageSend a Private Message to theogreDirect Link to This Post
Just as importantly. It significantly reduces gum/varnish/etc formation inside the engine by forcibly reducing conentrations of waste gasses from the normal operation of the engine. This improves engine life.

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Report this Post07-14-2001 03:19 PM Click Here to See the Profile for JncomuttSend a Private Message to JncomuttDirect Link to This Post
Ahh... You were right, it wasn't the PCV valve, it was the one on the other side of the valve cover... Sorry, my mistake. Also, My PCV gasket leaks like crazy. I replaced the Rubber grommet that goes into the valve cover but it seems like the plastic part that plugs into that wants to tilt backwards. After about 2 weeks, it starts leaking each time. I don't think the PCV is bad, I'll change it tho, any other suggestions?
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Report this Post07-14-2001 03:58 PM Click Here to See the Profile for theogreClick Here to visit theogre's HomePageSend a Private Message to theogreDirect Link to This Post
I've yet to find a source of PCV valve gromits that don't seep or just leak.

The 84 is diferant from the 87... It has the plastic thing between the actual valve and cover... I'm not sure what you can do to fix them.

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Report this Post07-14-2001 07:50 PM Click Here to See the Profile for FierowreckerClick Here to visit Fierowrecker's HomePageSend a Private Message to FierowreckerDirect Link to This Post
Too bad they don't make one with threads, then it would't leak...
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Report this Post07-15-2001 11:28 AM Click Here to See the Profile for JncomuttSend a Private Message to JncomuttDirect Link to This Post
So then Ogre, Can I just switch my 84 to the 87 setup? Or 86 even, that never leaked on me...??
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Report this Post07-15-2001 03:15 PM Click Here to See the Profile for theogreClick Here to visit theogre's HomePageSend a Private Message to theogreDirect Link to This Post
Converting to the later setup should not be a problem. Make sure you use the valve for what ever year. They are calibrated for the position the are used in....
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