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Sunroof holes by DecadenceR
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Report this Post06-01-2001 09:50 AM Click Here to See the Profile for DecadenceRClick Here to visit DecadenceR's HomePageSend a Private Message to DecadenceRDirect Link to This Post
i don't remember who it was that said it or I'd ask you directly, but can someone e-mail me pictures of where to drill the drain holes on the sunroof? my e-mail is Decadence0@aol.com (that's a zero)

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Report this Post06-01-2001 10:01 AM Click Here to See the Profile for TSPalmerSend a Private Message to TSPalmerDirect Link to This Post
I would like those too please!

shawn_palmer@hotmail.com

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Report this Post06-02-2001 12:49 AM Click Here to See the Profile for DecadenceRClick Here to visit DecadenceR's HomePageSend a Private Message to DecadenceRDirect Link to This Post
Thanks for sending me that paint drawing...
Now, I have my headliner off now and it looks like the water would come into the passanger compartment. Is it just around the sunroof that's sealed off?
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Report this Post06-02-2001 02:29 AM Click Here to See the Profile for cadaverSend a Private Message to cadaverDirect Link to This Post
The holes get drilled right in the corners near the gasket.
No water wont come in the roof now. The area under the fiberglass roof is a wet area anyway.
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a picture would still be nice if someone could post it here.. I am in need of dis too

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Report this Post06-02-2001 12:50 PM Click Here to See the Profile for BruceptsClick Here to visit Brucepts's HomePageSend a Private Message to BruceptsDirect Link to This Post
I drilled the holes in my 84 SE on Monday. It downpoured yesturday and last nite, no wet headliner for me anymore!!! Now I can finally replace the old headliner with a new one.

I drilled the holes on the inside corners of the seals, you have to pull them back a tad to get the drill in. Mine had some kinda sealant gooped in there that I had to dig out with a scribe (previous owner repair?). The gutter channel is rusted at all four corners also from the water laying in there. I vacuumed out all the rust so none of it would move into the new holes I drilled. Without this forum I'd still be getting a wet butt from my seat . . .

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How can you get rust in a fiberglass top? Do you mean you drilled the holes in the SEAL or in the channel?

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Report this Post06-02-2001 01:44 PM Click Here to See the Profile for BruceptsClick Here to visit Brucepts's HomePageSend a Private Message to BruceptsDirect Link to This Post
The channel that holds the seal on my 84 is steel. The holes are drilled right in front (meaning on the interior side of the car) of the seal corner not in the seal itself. Once you see the seal and how it is installed you will see where you need to drill. Its really not that hard to figureout once you see it. Any water that gets by the seal runs down the channel and drains out the new holes and not into the interior.

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Just went and did it, I see what you are talking about. It rained last night, I drilled em and it drained.. cool..

what size drillbit did you use?

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Report this Post06-03-2001 10:50 AM Click Here to See the Profile for DecadenceRClick Here to visit DecadenceR's HomePageSend a Private Message to DecadenceRDirect Link to This Post
I would still like to see a physical pic if anyone has one. I want to make sure I drill the holes in the right space. The drawing that was sent to me gave me an idea, but I'd like to see a pic from someone that did it plz...
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Report this Post06-04-2001 09:39 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Jake_DragonSend a Private Message to Jake_DragonDirect Link to This Post
Sounds like a good article for Ogre's Cave.
I would like to see some pictures if anyone can post them.

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Report this Post06-05-2001 10:00 AM Click Here to See the Profile for TaijiguySend a Private Message to TaijiguyDirect Link to This Post
Is there no one with the pics of this? I'm interested as well. I've never had a roof skin off. So is the roof panel two layers, or is there a sub-panel beneath the roof skin? Guess I'm just unclear as to where the holes are actually draining to, and where the water goes. Pics of the roof without the skin, and detailed pics of the bottom of the skin itself would really help to clarify this.
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Report this Post06-05-2001 10:11 AM Click Here to See the Profile for 84BillClick Here to visit 84Bill's HomePageSend a Private Message to 84BillDirect Link to This Post
I'll get you a pic of the roof w/o the skin but
I'm not going to drill a hole in my roof since a new gasket will not leak and does not warrent it. I will get a pic of where the hole should go according to thees folks
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Report this Post06-05-2001 10:38 AM Click Here to See the Profile for DecadenceRClick Here to visit DecadenceR's HomePageSend a Private Message to DecadenceRDirect Link to This Post
Thanks a lot!
I want to get this done, and it's only a 2 minute job. I just want to make sure they're going in the exact right spot so I dont make anything worse. That, of course, is my luck...
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Report this Post06-05-2001 06:13 PM Click Here to See the Profile for 84BillClick Here to visit 84Bill's HomePageSend a Private Message to 84BillDirect Link to This Post
Here are the pics of the drain holes built into the sub roof. The first pic os looking from the rear outside of the car.

This pic shows the location a bit better

this is the inside shot of the same factory drain hole

and this is a pic of where I suspect the hole gets drilled to drain away the water. it's under the inside REAR corner of the sunroof

Hope this helps


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Report this Post06-05-2001 06:18 PM Click Here to See the Profile for DecadenceRClick Here to visit DecadenceR's HomePageSend a Private Message to DecadenceRDirect Link to This Post
Good thing I waited.
The way it was explained to me, i thought I had to drill the hole straight down further in.
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Report this Post06-06-2001 12:37 AM Click Here to See the Profile for BruceptsClick Here to visit Brucepts's HomePageSend a Private Message to BruceptsDirect Link to This Post
Thats exactly the location I drilled my holes. I drilled them front and back, sorry if my explaination wasn't clearer

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Report this Post06-10-2001 12:39 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Ship RiderSend a Private Message to Ship RiderDirect Link to This Post
Is there a seal between the fiberglass roof and the subroof?
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Report this Post08-22-2001 12:18 AM Click Here to See the Profile for billfredmike24Click Here to visit billfredmike24's HomePageSend a Private Message to billfredmike24Direct Link to This Post
Does anyone have the pics of where the drain holes should be. 84bill's pictures are not showing up for me. Thanks Mike
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bump. Anyone have pics of the holes?
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Report this Post08-22-2001 12:19 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Fierokid87Send a Private Message to Fierokid87Direct Link to This Post
Yeah Bills pictures are also not showing up for me.

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Report this Post08-22-2001 12:53 PM Click Here to See the Profile for 84BillClick Here to visit 84Bill's HomePageSend a Private Message to 84BillDirect Link to This Post
I can get them back up for you guys
I'll have them back by 6:30 or so

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Report this Post08-22-2001 01:16 PM Click Here to See the Profile for mbrambleSend a Private Message to mbrambleDirect Link to This Post
Well, I don't have a photo but this drawing may help. Red part is the sunroof skin, white is the recessed area of the skin where the weatherstrip sits, black are the channels that the weatherstrips fastens into, and grey is the actual opening.

Pull back a corner of the weatherstripping and you will see the two pieces of channel at that corner. The channels are not connected together. The drawing shows little dots where the holes should be drilled in each corner. Once you put the weatherstrip back in place (securely fastened into the channel pieces) you will not be able to see the holes.

I drilled 1/4" holes, some have drilled larger I believe. You just drill thru the 'fiberglass' skin. Don't use much pressure and let the drill/bit do the work. There's not much chance that you would drill thru the metal roof as you would know that you are no longer drilling thru the fiberglass.

There's a space between the skin and the metal roof. Water dripping thru the holes drops onto the metal roof and then back and out under the sail panel area.

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Report this Post08-22-2001 03:35 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Formula88Send a Private Message to Formula88Direct Link to This Post
That may help sunroof leakage, but it sounds like a prime chance for rust. Your gonna be getting a lot of trapped moisture between the roof metal and plastic body panel. Just a caveat.
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Report this Post08-22-2001 06:12 PM Click Here to See the Profile for 84BillClick Here to visit 84Bill's HomePageSend a Private Message to 84BillDirect Link to This Post
There ya go
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Report this Post08-23-2001 12:20 AM Click Here to See the Profile for cadaverSend a Private Message to cadaverDirect Link to This Post
Formula that area is wet anyway. And the factory drilled holes there I think starting is 87.
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Report this Post08-23-2001 12:12 PM Click Here to See the Profile for billfredmike24Click Here to visit billfredmike24's HomePageSend a Private Message to billfredmike24Direct Link to This Post
Do you drill the holes throught the weather stripping and through the roof, or do you lift up the weather stripping and just drill through the roof??
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Report this Post08-23-2001 12:23 PM Click Here to See the Profile for 84BillClick Here to visit 84Bill's HomePageSend a Private Message to 84BillDirect Link to This Post
Just through the fiber glass roof just under the seal. The drill bit will only go in the fiberglass panel slightly less than 1/4 inch.

DO NOT KEEP DRILLING! once it goes through the glass the drill bit will drop into the small airspace between the roof and subroof, if you keep going you could end up going through the metal subroof and into the headliner.

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Report this Post08-23-2001 12:42 PM Click Here to See the Profile for billfredmike24Click Here to visit billfredmike24's HomePageSend a Private Message to billfredmike24Direct Link to This Post
So no drilled hole in the seal? right
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Report this Post08-23-2001 12:56 PM Click Here to See the Profile for 84BillClick Here to visit 84Bill's HomePageSend a Private Message to 84BillDirect Link to This Post
oops

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Nope I would not recomend that and be sure not to got through your finger either

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