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Guesses on % of fieros still on the road? by saleenfiero
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Report this Post05-30-2001 08:29 PM Click Here to See the Profile for saleenfieroSend a Private Message to saleenfieroDirect Link to This Post
Can anyone even remotely guestimate the number of fieros left drivable and accountable?
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I remember when you could stop at stoplight and look around and see atleast one fiero. I would guess remaining to be at 10% on the road and another 5% remaining in wreckers or off road. I still see a few with no plates and sitting in the drive way, or farm yard.

MY GUESS 10%

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10% !!!! That's sad. I would guess a quite bit more, but I'm probably wrong. I keep rescuing them and fixing them, but I don't think it's helping
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And I buy em and wreck em!
I want the last one!!!
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67%??? I don't know i would think by how many members are here, and howmany have 2 or more I would say a high number. But I have been known to be wrong once before. think I was 6 years old,
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I'm not sure of the % but here in MN I get stares in my GT... as if I was driving some rare import. I've had people in the business next to where I work ask me what type of car I was driving... as if they've never seen one before.

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I see tons of Fiero's every day but usually 84's. Not many GT's though and even fewer formula's. I would guess that 50% of all Fieros are still on the road.

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Most Fiero owners are cheap. Okay, let's put it bluntly: poor. They do the best they can, but their cars keep getting rougher by the minute, and eventually go to the big winding country road in the sky. We at this Forum, those in the e-list, and a few more in some clubs are the last who have any funds at all left to keep some Fieros in decent shape (and I'm barely able to include myself).

My guess is more than 10% but way less than 50%.

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Seems like 50% of the Fieros I come across at the junkyards around here are of the 1984 model year, so they are probably the biggest number off the road.

I think that a larger portion of the 6 cylinder Fieros that were built are still around when compared to the 4 banger coupes. I've seen 2m4's in pretty good shape junked because the engine was blown or the clutch was gone and the owner didn't want to pay to get it fixed.

All said though, I still usually see at least one other Fiero (other than my own) on the road in driving around every day.

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Report this Post05-31-2001 01:58 AM Click Here to See the Profile for camaro2fieroSend a Private Message to camaro2fieroDirect Link to This Post
Well here in Daytona I see 7 that I know of.One is across the street a V6. I have seen 6 others not including mine.So I would say about 30% still around.
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Here where i live pop. 20,000 there are three regular driveing fieros all notchbacks one red one white(mine) and one funky color that seems to change color every time the sun hits it different. so in conclusion i'll say it's a very low number.

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Here's my guess...

50% in junkyards
30% kept in garages as showcars/toys - rarely driven
20% driven daily

Mine is one of the 20%.

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Report this Post05-31-2001 08:15 AM Click Here to See the Profile for KRMFieroSend a Private Message to KRMFieroDirect Link to This Post
18,000 people in my town, I have 2 Fieros, and there are 7 more that i know of in the town. So thats 8 Fieros out of 18,000 people

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I'll chime in with 30%. I have one, my cousin has one and there are 4 others in town that I see on a regular basis. There are only two in our local junk heap, which I've claimed a few parts from so far. They are both '84s I think and both hardtops.

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Report this Post05-31-2001 09:30 AM Click Here to See the Profile for fierojunkySend a Private Message to fierojunkyDirect Link to This Post
I would agree that it is between 25-50 percent.

EDIT: WHERE DID MY SIG GO?!

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Hey i found it!! Just need to get my pic with it. Can anyone help

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Originally posted by fierojunky:
Hey i found it!! Just need to get my pic with it. Can anyone help

Email me your pic and I can post it for you if you dont know how, otherwise, click the "Pennock's Image Poster" button at the bottom of each page.

As for # of Fieros on the road, it is hard to say for me. My town is pop 7,500 and mostly rural. I see another Fiero driving while I am about once every two weeks. For a while, before I got done with my resto, I would see a red fastback on the way to school everyday, when I was driving my other car. But, as soon as I started driving my Fiero, it disappeared.

I would say about 45% still on the road, while the others are in a junkyard.

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Back in September of 2000 this question came up, and in the archive link below is my guess. Basically, taking some info I've gathered from a good friend (who got the numbers on the entire fiero population of a big state) and extrapolating it to the entire US population,

The number of fieros still registered in the US is about %30 of all built. Allowing for non-registered cars in backyards and junkyards, and others living abroad, I would guess that the number which are intact is no more than 40% or so. Since I see around 10 Fieros go through just two junkyards locally (Atlanta) every two months or less, I have to guess that the US Fiero population dwindles yearly by 3% in that regard alone.

They're going away quickly I'm afraid.
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I have often figured that about 50% or less are still on the road. This is probably the lowest time or close to in the Fieros history. They are at a point where they are "OLD" and outdated and really cheap because no one wants one because of the high maintainence and since the majority are over 100,000 miles most are in need of engine and trans overhauls and are just ragged out from years of use and abuse. Probably over the next few years (5 to 7) the Fiero will all but vanish from the roadways. Then our Fieros will move into the 3rd stage where they are a sought after "toy" for the resto crowd that want a sort of collectable car since so few are left and they are on the verge of antiquedom.
I know around here I see MAYBE 1 a month if I'm lucky as compaired to the 1 or 2 a week I saw a few years back. I figure about 10 Fieros a month pass through the yards in this area.

From what I understand the Corvair suffered the same fate as our beloved Fiero and I have not seen a single Corvair on the road in about 2 or 3 years! Granted there were not as many built but looking at the era they were built in there were not as many cars on the road compaired to the mid to late 80's My grandfather loved the Corvair and owened 2 of them at one time.

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84bill, In the Northern California area I am watching the prices of Fieros jump considerably. Since I started buying/driving Fieros two years ago, I have seen more come onto the market and for a significantly higher price. I got my daily driver for $750 two years ago. From what I am seeing in the local classifieds I know I could get $3000-$3500 for it. I am seeing 84s that are in mediocre condition for up to $2000. I keep looking for the $500 fixeruppers. I think of the four self service yards that I frequent, there are probably 50-60 Fieros that go through them in a year. I am seeing more V6 and 87 cars over the last year than I did two years ago.
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Hey Mshill
Fortunatly I have been able to find all of my cars for 650 or less. they are all the 2.5 notches but thats what I like because it's the underdog of the Fiero world. My latest car is an 84 Indy and its in bad shape body wise for 400 bucks. There was an Indy at Carlisle for sale for 3500 by comparison. Anyway I have not seen much change in Fiero prices in this area (Philadelphia and burbs) over that last few years but I'll be willing to bet that over the next few years that will change. There are only a few if any listings for used Fieros in the local papers. So demand will cause the price to go up eventually.


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I figured I would pull out my trusty Fiero spotting guide and look up the production numbers to make a more educated guess (I am so s-m-r-t)

1984 - 136,840 - 36.97%
1985 - 76,371 - 20.63%
1986 - 83,974 - 22.69%
1987 - 46,581 - 12.58%
1988 - 26,402 - 7.13%

So based on this, I would say only about 7% of 84s are left. About half (10%) of 85s left. 15% of 86s left, 8% of 87s left, about about 5.5% of 88s left. So thats approx. 45%. It is probably more since I think my 84 estimate is a little low.

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Most Fiero owners are cheap. Okay, let's put it bluntly: poor. They do the best they can, but their cars keep getting rougher by the minute, and eventually go to the big winding country road in the sky.

That pretty much describes me perfectly. I've driven my Fiero over 10k miles and I have only put in about $50 in repairs.

As for the percentage still on the road, I see about 8 around, but 4 of those I have never seen move, and two of them have thier headlights stuck up. And I have never seen a fastback in person. I have no idea about the percentage though.

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I seem to notice that "Fiero for Sale" want ads are much less common than just a couple of years ago. Also, the asking prices seem to have increased a bit.

My guess? About 63.12% of the Fieros originally produced are still on the road...plus or minus 35% Basis? Absolutely nothing!

As far as the Fiero suffering the same fate as the Corvair goes, I think the Fiero has a couple of advantages.

One, the Corvair had a very unique drivetrain. The Corvair transaxle was pretty much "Corvair only" (okay, neglecting the original Tempest and F-85 models). And the aircooled engine was also "Corvair only" (neglecting kit cars, go karts and other homebuilts). Most of the Fiero's major drivetrain components, on the other hand, are much more "mainstream."

Second, the plastic body panels won't be rusting into oblivion, like the Corvairs'. I know, the early Corvairs had ridiculously thick sheet metal, but they eventually rust out. Just like the Fieros' frames

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Report this Post06-01-2001 08:34 AM Click Here to See the Profile for 84BillClick Here to visit 84Bill's HomePageSend a Private Message to 84BillDirect Link to This Post
Wooohoo saw a Fiero on the way home yesterday! A Red Notchback, Let see how long before I spot another one

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In my area there are 3, 2 never move. On the way home from Draper, UT (To Oak City, UT) on I-15 I saw 1. The guy has it in really nice shape though. Was kinda thinking about stopping him, clubbing him over the head and taking off. Damn that was a nice car..

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Here in Prince Edward Island I know of 6 Notchbacks ( 3 red,1 blue,1 black,1 white.. 3 GTs (1 red,1 yellow (looks like it was painted with a brush..rims too),1 LIME GREEN-ugly as hell) and 4 (3 notchs 1 gt)wrecked in the junkyards.. (stripped completely )


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I don't know about you guys, but around here, either you see no other fieros that your own for weeks or every one in town on the same damn day. They seem to come in spurts.
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What I find amazing is that your someone who either LOVEs the fiero like we do or you just drive it because it was bought cheep. I have tryed to recruit several fiero drivers into our club in SE Virginia, they all look at me and say "theres a club" or "WHY". I love my fieros and I would buy everyone I could if I had the cash. I go to junkyards looking for parts and I sometimes look over a poor trashed fiero and wonder about its story, how it got there. My uncle has a 66 GTO and I remember when you saw them on the road, you never see them except at shows. Oh well.

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Its really sad but true. These cars are disappearing fast. My guess for still being driven occasionally or otherwise is about 20% tops. Face it, most people threw these cars away like an old newspaper after about 150,000 miles. Really sad.

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During the last year I lived in Vegas (population 1 million +) and now live in Oxnard (pop 160,000) and still I'd have to say I've only seen maybe 20 Fieros in that time on the road. I love when people look at my fieros and ask me "what kind of car is that"? and then when I tell then it's a Fiero they get that dissapointed look :P

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I live in the panhandle of WV and for such a small population and Fiero hostile environment (lots of bad roads, and snowy winters) I've seen a surprisingly large amount that are still on the road, and quite a few waiting in front/back yards.

Besides my 85 GT, I've noted 7 other "daily drivers" (seen them more than twice a week). There are 5 notchbacks but only two fastbacks. One is a restored 86 GT done by the previous owner of my 85 GT. The other is blue and can't seem to lower his headlights. In the notchback category there are two red ones, a silver, a white, and something between maroon and purple. I've seen 4 waiting for love in driveways one black 87 GT plus 3 notchbacks (gold, white, black).

Hopefully we can get more wealthy auto enthusiats to realize the collectablilty of the Fiero and keep a few more on the road.

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Suprisingly in a small neighboorhood near my house there are 6 or 7 Fieros within a 10 block radius (LowCirrus has 2 of them). In my town, that I know of, there are at least 25 Fieros, probably more cause I don't think I counted our 10. Hell at my house alone on a daily basis we have 12 (all run, 8 roadworthy) so it is a pretty good number around here. Especially now that the weather is getting nicer.

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I know of four Fiero's here in Canyon Lake, TX and they are all parked in my driveway. They are all 88s a GT, Formula, and two Coupes. Have a soft spot for the Coupes.
So my guess is 20% still on the road of all models.
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I would guess about 30-40%, Just in the local area theres a black 86 GT, a gold 87 GT, a really really really nice blue 87 GT , MY Maroon 87 GT, a white 85 GT, a white 84 Coupe, another Maroon 87 GT, and a couple of more notchbacks floating around, and about 4 or 5 84/85 coupes in the local junkyards
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I was just going to say that Jen, and every other day I see another, there are pretty many in the area.
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Welp saw another Fiero Friday. Very nice gold GT..
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I have a 86 1/2 GT. It's quite rare. The difference is that it was the first Fieros that got 5 speeds. I love mine!!
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I live in Monroe Michigan and I see about 3 or 4 that ar driven around town other than mine. So not that many.
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Wow, I wish I've seen that many around. In the 2 years that I've had mine, I've only seen 2 on the road. One SE and one GT, both the red/maroon color. I live just outside central CT, and there aren't many around. Hard to find in junkyards too.

There are only 2 other ones I know of. One has never moved since I noticed it and it probably wont for it as 3 flat tires and the engine compartment is covered with a ragedy tarp. Has a cracked winshield and stuck headlights.

The other is an 87 SE. I've seen it move from outside of the garage, but never known it to be on the road. It does run, I think its more of a collector to the owner however.

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17 year old Fierophile
'86 Coupe 160k miles
'84 Mint Beauty 51k and original tires!

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