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this may be a dumb question but.... by 85seNUT
Started on: 04-08-2001 11:06 PM
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Report this Post04-08-2001 11:06 PM Click Here to See the Profile for 85seNUTSend a Private Message to 85seNUTDirect Link to This Post
if i put on side scoops for my car. will it add more hp? because it will trap more air? just curious
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Report this Post04-08-2001 11:22 PM Click Here to See the Profile for AkursedXSend a Private Message to AkursedXDirect Link to This Post
Nothing substantial. Maybe if you put in a higher flowing air filter. Get a custom intake like Chris West sells, and get a bored out Throttle body, then you might notice some difference. But the scoops alone, if anything at all, maybe one or two horsepower
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Report this Post04-08-2001 11:33 PM Click Here to See the Profile for fyerstarterSend a Private Message to fyerstarterDirect Link to This Post
Nope, not if you have the stock air intake. Once air enters the intake tube it runs right into the water filter and all kinds of other mazelike obstacles. It's the equivalent of ramming air onto a brick wall.

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Report this Post04-09-2001 08:59 AM Click Here to See the Profile for CarrollesSend a Private Message to CarrollesDirect Link to This Post
http://www.fiero.org/text/firedup.txt

read the comments on work done to update the Fiero intake system. Interesting.

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Report this Post04-09-2001 10:41 AM Click Here to See the Profile for OreifClick Here to visit Oreif's HomePageSend a Private Message to OreifDirect Link to This Post
There is a thread about the holley scoop that has the same question. If I remember correctly, there was no difference in hp or torque with side scoops or the water trap removed. This was done on a dyno but you must remember on a dyno there is no air passing outside the car. Also most scoop designs for the Fiero are not wide enough to catch the main stream of air passing the side of the car. So the "ram" effect is minimal at best.
The only advantage the scoop has over the original "grate" is some air is caught by the scoop and this MAY aid in gas mileage while driving down the highway.
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Report this Post04-09-2001 11:24 AM Click Here to See the Profile for TiggerSend a Private Message to TiggerDirect Link to This Post
If someone is going to all the trouble of putting side scoops on, then I'd say it would be well worth it to pitch the stock intake system anyway.
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Report this Post04-09-2001 12:46 PM Click Here to See the Profile for fyerstarterSend a Private Message to fyerstarterDirect Link to This Post
An except from that article:

WHAT YOU SHOULD LEAVE ALONE

In searching for more power, my race crew tested the Fiero V6 engine on the
dyno without the stock air cleaner and inlet system, and we were surprised
to find that this produced no change in power. Apparently, the Pontiac
engineers did a good job on these parts because they work well, even though
they look restrictive

Well Duh! What do you think is better, sucking cold air from outside the engine compartment through the stock intake system or hot air from the engine compartment right into a bare throttle body? Not to mention this artice was written in 1991 before the "tube with a K&N" style air intake became widestream. It may have not even been invented at that time

To those who seem to love their stock intake so much then keep it. I personally have noticed an improvement in acceleration, sound, and looks with this mod.

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Report this Post04-09-2001 09:21 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Dave GunsulSend a Private Message to Dave GunsulDirect Link to This Post
I installed a K@N and the Holley
air scoop and noticed a slight
difference. Every little bit helps!
I later installed one of Darrell
Morses bored out T-bodies and upper
plenum and noticed a large difference!

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Report this Post04-09-2001 10:12 PM Click Here to See the Profile for ka4nkfSend a Private Message to ka4nkfDirect Link to This Post
Just take your air filter out and try it without the filter. I think you will see no difference. I think orge said onetime that the reason some of the guy's noticed a difference was they were installing a new clean filter Which replaced a dirty one. My thoughts is the stock system is good and the air scoop's makes it look nice.
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Report this Post04-09-2001 10:15 PM Click Here to See the Profile for ka4nkfSend a Private Message to ka4nkfDirect Link to This Post

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sorry about spelling ogre wrong.
I don' know whats wrong with this computer this is the second time it has done that.
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Report this Post04-10-2001 12:07 AM Click Here to See the Profile for fyerstarterSend a Private Message to fyerstarterDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by ka4nkf:
Just take your air filter out and try it without the filter. I think you will see no difference. I think orge said onetime that the reason some of the guy's noticed a difference was they were installing a new clean filter Which replaced a dirty one. My thoughts is the stock system is good and the air scoop's makes it look nice.

Have you ever taken out your stock air intake assembly? The air filter is not the obstruction. The rain filter/noise resonator box is.

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Report this Post04-10-2001 12:52 AM Click Here to See the Profile for ka4nkfSend a Private Message to ka4nkfDirect Link to This Post
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The rain filter/noise resonator box is not in mine. It looks like there was nothing in there, but I did not buy it new. If it was in there they did a good job because there is no grinding marks or nothing to show that something had been removed.
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