I just saw on Street Dreams Web Site that they sell kit car hinges. will they work with a stock door/body? How heavy are the doors to open & close? they say they rotate away from the car and then open (to clear the body). The only real body mods I will do to my car wil be a ZR2 ground F/X, F-355 mirrors, F-355 facia and a rear wing change.

Has any one done this or wanted to do it?

Are you talking about gullwing or scissor doors? the stock body Fiero would have to be modified to do gullwing because there is no frame around the window.

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Jeff
85GT

Yes, you would have to put a frame around the doors to have them swing up, like the back to the future car. I think the ones like they have Lambo's would work, where the door swings straight up. They both would require quite a bit of work unless they are designed for the Fiero.

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Sean Heberly
Silver 86 GT 2.8
Killer Stereo System

Like a Lamborgini Diablo/ (SP) NOT a deloriean (SP). I guess I ment scissor doors sorry

Thats going to be one beastly hinge.. (I assume you'll only be able to have one hinge). But, in regards to opening like a DeLorean, it is basically impossible on a Fiero. Not because of the frame, but because of the actual doors. On the DeLorean, the doors are hinged almost in the middle of the roof, where as in the Fiero they would be hinged right above the doors. That would require you to have about 3" of clearance on each side of you, and it would look pretty stupid.

I agree, gullwings on a Fiero would look strange. I think the lambo type would look good though.

I'll call them monday &get some prices & info.

On a KIT Lambo. what do they do with the doors? do they modify the actual fram & door?

It should be possible to do a gullwing setup.. it'd require custom doors however, and a lot of work. it'd use the roof from a t-top fiero.

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steve@fieroproject.com
http://www.fieroproject.com

I would love some scissor doors.

It should not be OVERLY difficult. All it really entails is a heavy duty hinge slides the door directly out an inch or two and then scissor up (and of course lock at the top). Maybe we could get together and get a shop to design a simple system. IN which case, write me down for one. Or find a kitcar shop willing to sell the hinges... IN which case, also count me in

About 6 months ago, I talked to a custom body shop here in florida. They said they would do a lamborgini/scissor type door mod on the stock fiero for me for $2000. I never got back with him. So I didn't get it done.
The guy I talked to was a great person to talk to... he held an autobody tournament once,and we talked for about an hour on the cool stuff he does down here.

There really isn't any use to this reply, I just thought I would share what I have found.

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87 Coupe "IRON BEAST"
84 SE (project)

Red Green (on PBS) showed how to put gull-wing doors on a Ford Granada one time, using only duct tape and a remote-control garage door opener. Very high-tech - I'm sure he offers a kit by now; if you wrote him, maybe he could adapt it to the Fiero

For a unique look, I'm going to use a green plastic shower curtain for the doors on my car

Sorry - J/K -Stu shut up now.

[This message has been edited by StuGood (edited 10-22-2000).]

Yeah i saw red green do his "kit" to the granda. I called him about his kit for the fiero. You dont need door frames. You need to modify your door glass a little. You'll need an oval cut out, near the top of the glass. Then you'll need to remove the sunroof glass. Then open the drives door, and come by hauling ass in a pickup truck and strike the door so that it rips it off of the stock hinges, but be careful not to break the door glass Ok now, Wrap an entire roll of duct tape through the oval and around the roof where the sun roof hole is cut. Mount your garage door opener on the passener side seat, and run the chain up and around the roof, and bolt the end to the outsie drivers door panel. Plug it in, hit the button, they're you go! The garage door opener will pull the chain, causing the door to raise on the push of a button, then it will land on your roof, now just get it, and enjoy all the looks you'll get from your awesome tricked out setup.

Mike LeCompte
p.s Thanks Red Green!

Red Green rocks.. I met him when I was 12, back when they were filming the show in a small studio in London, ON..

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steve@fieroproject.com
http://www.fieroproject.com

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Xtreme Fiero's:
[B]I'll call them monday &get some prices & info.

On a KIT Lambo. what do they do with the doors? do they modify the actual fram & door

On the Lambo kits, The complete body including roof and windshield is removed. the basic body shell is one piece like you would have in a model kit (hood, decklid etc) are seperate. The doors and the body where they hinge are all part of kit, most have the door assby all ready installed in shell. I dont think theres is any way to do sissor doors on a stock car. Im guessing that a stock door is somthing over 100 pnds, hard to work sitting down (ouch my shoulder). to try it try lifting your girlfriend over your head while your sitting down with one arm

I'll still give them a call. and a few local body shops to. Street Dreams says that they are for kit cars & hot rods. They move the door out then up, Maybe a gas strut can be put in there some where to help lift the door. I know that on a real Lambo the doors ain't light at all, it a real work out if you get in and out alot

i was just joking a little with the heavy door thing. Anything can be done with enough time, planning and money. Yes the kits and REAL Lambos use gas struts to assist, but also a real lambo door is all aluminum, fixed glass, nothing in the doors, have to weigh all of maybe 40 pounds if that. Id still go with the red green setup and save money for that $2.00 per gallon gas.

Ive been in contact with street dreams. They said there door hinges are made for the KIT fieros and wont work on a stock fiero without MAJOR modification to the door and the shrould area

Okay i have really looked into doing this on my car for a while now, i have 2 years of tool and die experience and am willing to try

the hinge has to be mounted as high as possible on the inside near the frame
has to sissor out 2.25 inches (at the other end) so the door clears the interior.
means the hinge has to be on a slight angle

door lock mechanism will have to be moved to the bottom, it will have to seat there, too muck of a pain to design the hinge to pivoit and move vertically

The weight issue
three options hydrolic assist (like a mini van back hatch) or total hydrolic (expensive) or electric motor actuated(no the fourth option is not 'hold it there while you get in, one slip and ....... you will have to drive automatic'

I think i am looking at hydrolic assist for the passenger and the total hydrolic for the driver (on a solenoid for the alarm remote)

I will be doing some basic drawing board stuff as soon as i get caught up in school

Have also asked for a couple engineer friends help

anyone interested contact me at

kinboyatuwo@yahoo.com

(p.s. anyone know the actual weight of the door so i can figure out weight issues etc.)

if you have one off weigh it or take a GOOD guess and sen the results

I was looking at a lambo this morning and noticed somting about the doors. They have a frame around the door, and they dont slide out, they go straight up. There is a seal on top just like the ones around the door on the Fiero. They have a more dome shape to the roof then the Fieros do, so you would have to either modify the roof, or make them slide out.

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Sean Heberly
Silver 86 GT 2.8
Killer Stereo System

I just got off the phone with street dreams. there a few things that need to be done to a stock fiero to instal Lambo doors on it.

1) The stock Fiero door needs to be cut at about a 45-60° angle at the botom rear edge (to clear the door jamb)

2) the piece of door that is removed can be used as a filler pannel/ Lower rear door jamb. (will deed to be glassed in.

3) the hinge area may need to be reinforced

4) Remote entery will be needed to roll the window up and down. (clearance while closeing & opening the door)

If any one interesed in this mod. I can send a pic/ Diagram (snal mail) of what needs to be cut and glassed. the hinges are $450 from Street Dreams. also you can modify the door a keep the stock latch location. I think the body work could be doe for less than $1000

P.S. he said 5 pepple had called him about this mod to thier stock fiero in the last month. I am so there

Is that for the pair of hinges, if so that is a good way for me to do it, saves a lot of trouble

In the June 201 issue of Muscle Mustangs and Fast Fords, their is a 98 Mustang convertable with Lamborghini style doors on it. The conversion was done by a company called Formula-1 Auto Body, in Northridge, CA. In the article the company said they could do the same thing on about any car for 10 grand. Oh yeah it also has a hydraulically-operated "hide away" front license plate. Very cool. I don't even like the new mustang's but this one is awesome.

I still hold on to the idea that gullwings could be put on a Fiero. You wouldn't need a frame around the window, and it probably wouldn't require the level of modification required for scissor doors. Hinges could be manufactured that resemble hood hinges, where they actually have outward movement (or upward on the hood)before any pivoting occurs. It would likely require relocating the latch assembly to the bottom, but would of course lend itself to shaved handles. (Actually, either system would do that) I think the scissor doors would require an electrical door release, even on the inside, as the window and the door latch would need to be interlocked, so the door wouldn't release before the window came down the necessary amount, or go back up before the door is closed. On a gull wing you wouldn't need to have the window roll itself down. The downside is gull wings need a buttload of space to open, although I can't imagine you would park a car like that very close to other cars anyway.
~Taiji

Fiero doors are so heavy it would be easier to set it up so you hit a button and the door stays where it is and the rest of the car lifts up in the air, and you slide out (need to implement BB/RoadRunner Physics).

If im gonna do anything to the doors on my fiero then I want StarTrek doors that slide open into the body panels

and go Swoosh! Swoosh!

How about a funny car kit; the entire body hinges forward from the front bumper?

Or a clamshell; the body splits in half lengthwise?

Or, for you T-top people, a powered chair lift that lifts you out the top?

Or, Lear-jet stairs; the door is hinged at the bottom and folds to the ground? This would also make it much easier to make that high step into the Fiero.