END OF KIT CARS? (Page 9/60)
Bloozberry DEC 14, 10:58 PM

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Originally posted by madcurl:
Well that's easy. One is enhancing the design elements that are already there whereas the other isn't. However, replica kits do not follow this rule. In fact it is the opposite.



What "rule"? What design elements do your cars share with the stock Fiero? The windshield, the tail lights and a badge? You've taken a Fiero and replaced every body panel on it because it appealed to you to do so, and because obviously you weren't satisfied with the look of the stock car. A fellow Fiero owner does the same thing, but because his choice doesn't meet your arbitrary and very loosely applied "rule" it's "stupid"?

I guess we're all entitled to our own opinions. Mine sure has changed recently.
madcurl DEC 14, 11:55 PM

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Originally posted by Bloozberry:


What "rule"? What design elements do your cars share with the stock Fiero? The windshield, the tail lights and a badge? You've taken a Fiero and replaced every body panel on it because it appealed to you to do so, and because obviously you weren't satisfied with the look of the stock car. A fellow Fiero owner does the same thing, but because his choice doesn't meet your arbitrary and very loosely applied "rule" it's "stupid"?

I guess we're all entitled to our own opinions. Mine sure has changed recently.



What would you call a IMSA kit? I'm sure whenever you see a IMSA kit you automatically say to yourself, "That's not a Fiero for every body panel is replaced."


madcurl DEC 15, 12:22 AM

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Originally posted by dratts:

Madcurl, I like your cars and your choice of engines. Two of my cars are N* powered. I have listened to your put downs of replicas for a long time. Now you've said that my car is stupid. I no longer have any respect for you. There is no need for you to put down other cars in order to get respect for your cars. They can stand on their own. You however have a problem. This from a long time fiero lover.



If I were like you I'd be in the corner right about now pouting whenever somebody said to me, "Lambo doors are rice, skinny tire are lame, choptops are stupid, and 19/20 wheels are too big." Dude, you need to grow up and stop walking around with your feelings on your shoulders and stop acting like a 12 year whenever somebody questions replica kit like it's some type of holy shrine. Nobody has called you out regarding (your) Fiero and quit trying to put words in my mouth. If you don't have respect from me-that's your own problem not mine, but don't get all pissed because I comment about the stupidness of having a replica that doesn't look like the original or that it has a 4-banger in the back and that he want it to sound like a Ferrari.
Bloozberry DEC 15, 07:04 AM

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Originally posted by madcurl:
What would you call a IMSA kit? I'm sure whenever you see a IMSA kit you automatically say to yourself, "That's not a Fiero for every body panel is replaced."




You missed the point. What I call an IMSA is about as relevent as what you call kit cars. My opinions about other's style choices make absolutely no difference in the world, so I keep them to myself unless they're constructive.

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TXGOOD DEC 15, 07:40 AM
I think it`s all in how you look at a car.
When someone looks at a kit as trying to be a "copy" as opposed to being a "representation" of an existing car then yea, the expectations fall short.
I like both modified and stock versions of the Fiero, but even modified it is still a "representation" of the original design.
I also think that sometimes a "no money limit" build can teeter over the top of extreme leading to too much customization.
Personally, I like replicas that just follow the basic body lines of a particular model of car but don`t try to imitate it exactly.
motoracer838 DEC 15, 10:10 AM
Curly, I have the greatest respect for the cars you have, they inspire people to do better. Having said that I have to side with Dratts as you do have a history of putting down replicas, while at the same time expressing interest in one that doesn't exist.

http://www.fiero.nl/forum/F...1/HTML/068108-3.html see page three.

You can't have it both ways. Joe
madcurl DEC 15, 02:00 PM

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Originally posted by motoracer838:

Curly, I have the greatest respect for the cars you have, they inspire people to do better. Having said that I have to side with Dratts as you do have a history of putting down replicas, while at the same time expressing interest in one that doesn't exist.

http://www.fiero.nl/forum/F...1/HTML/068108-3.html see page three.

You can't have it both ways. Joe



Putting down all replicas or putting down replica kits that are poorly built? If it is the latter then everybody here is guilty of doing that. How many threads here that demonstrate this very fact? Hundreds, right?


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Originally posted by madcurl:
02-28-2010 04:37 PM

Because I'm bored and I want to see something original.


ferrobi DEC 15, 02:43 PM

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Originally posted by Bloozberry:

My opinions about other's style choices make absolutely no difference in the world, so I keep them to myself unless they're constructive.




Very well said - seems that someone has a "holier than thou" take on things and I wish they would keep their opinions to themselves. After all we all seem to love cars and these are just cars - just different types.

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dratts DEC 15, 02:47 PM

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Originally posted by TXGOOD:

I think it`s all in how you look at a car.
When someone looks at a kit as trying to be a "copy" as opposed to being a "representation" of an existing car then yea, the expectations fall short.
I like both modified and stock versions of the Fiero, but even modified it is still a "representation" of the original design.
I also think that sometimes a "no money limit" build can teeter over the top of extreme leading to too much customization.
Personally, I like replicas that just follow the basic body lines of a particular model of car but don`t try to imitate it exactly.


My feelings exactly. My replica is not exact, but since there were only 4009 murcielagos made there are not very many people who would be able to tell the difference. I really admire Italian styling and don't second guess it. When I first got my car it had a vortec 350 installed that ran just fine, but looked sloppy. I wouldn't let anyone look at the engine and the interior was bad. Now I have redone the interior and installed the turbo ls4. I will show the engine with no fake cover at the drop of a hat and I don't pretend that it is a real murcielago. It pretty much is a hand built mid engine turbo corvette under an Italian style body.
madcurl DEC 15, 03:35 PM
For visuals;


















Tell me what do you see in these pics that others with replicas over look? Obviously, I'm not talking about the motor.

Now take a look at this beauty.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fz-IrhcNR4s

And now this one.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...bBSg&feature=related

As you can see both are replicas, all are not created equal for some kits are harder to detect because of the details. Bottom line. People have been viewing replicas for so long they've forgotten what the real one looks like or for that matter a better kit vs. one that isn't as good. However, like a magician revealing the "tricks of the tread" others replica owners don't want to hear it when the obvious is pointed out. If your going to try and fool somebody at least get the body right, brakes, and wheels. If you're rolling in a Lamborghini replica it is worst, because most if not all real Lamborghini owners roll with high end after market wheels and not the after market ones using adapters. I'm sorry, but the emperor isn't wearing clothes.

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