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Phranc
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MAY 30, 12:28 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by fierobear:
The problem with human morality (absent a diety) is that such morality is flexible. It is subject to change based on how the current society feels. |
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Morality has changed even with gods. Slavery was morally acceptable to christians. Their little book even endorsed it. Society changed and now slavery is not morally acceptable any more.
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Slayre
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MAY 30, 01:27 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Phranc:
Morality has changed even with gods. Slavery was morally acceptable to christians. Their little book even endorsed it. Society changed and now slavery is not morally acceptable any more. |
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Its a big book. Have you read it? Have you tried to understand it? Have you approached it with an open mind to see what all the excitement is about? My guess is you have not. Anyone can pick the bible up and use quotes to benefit their arguments, thats easy. Isaiah 59:1,2 may help explain why people dont get the "proof " they want to be believers. God cant help those who dont want it.
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Boondawg
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MAY 30, 01:36 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Slayre:
God cant help those who dont want it. |
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Sure he could.
All he would have to do is show up, or speak to people in the human fashion of outside their head.
He could have everyone knowing he exsists.
Simply by showing up & saying, "I just want to let you all know that I really do exsist, and I love you all very much, so please stop hurting each other.".
He just don't want too.[This message has been edited by Boondawg (edited 05-30-2009).]
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Carver1
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MAY 30, 01:58 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Boondawg:
Sure he could.
All he would have to do is show up, or speak to people in the human fashion of outside their head.
He could have everyone knowing he exsists.
Simply by showing up & saying, "I just want to let you all know that I really do exsist, and I love you all very much, so please stop hurting each other.".
He just don't want too.
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He did show up. They killed Him. Read the Book. I'll send you one if you need it.
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Boondawg
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MAY 30, 02:02 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Carver1:
He did show up. They killed Him. Read the Book. I'll send you one if you need it. |
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My book said that was his son.
Gods can't be killed.
I can send you my copy if you need to reread it.
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Phranc
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MAY 30, 02:05 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Slayre:
Its a big book. Have you read it? Have you tried to understand it? Have you approached it with an open mind to see what all the excitement is about? My guess is you have not. Anyone can pick the bible up and use quotes to benefit their arguments, thats easy. Isaiah 59:1,2 may help explain why people dont get the "proof " they want to be believers. God cant help those who dont want it. |
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There is no proff and the verse is a great cop out. It's no different then holding out an empty hand telling you I hold a giant diamond then when you tell me there is nothing there I retort that you don't see it because you don't want to. I'm a confirmed catholic and was an alter server for over a decade.I have read the bible. A few times. Including the books that were left out and the gospels that were left out. I read the bible with an open mind and that's why I can see it for the BS that it is. Its great for telling fables and that's about it. I've also studied the history of christianity. So you guessed wrong.
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Phranc
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MAY 30, 02:07 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Carver1:
He did show up. They killed Him. Read the Book. I'll send you one if you need it. |
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No a man named Jesus was killed. And he wasn't the only "prophet" making such claims at the time.
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madcurl
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MAY 30, 03:35 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Phranc:
There is no proff and the verse is a great cop out. It's no different then holding out an empty hand telling you I hold a giant diamond then when you tell me there is nothing there I retort that you don't see it because you don't want to. I'm a confirmed catholic and was an alter server for over a decade.I have read the bible. A few times. Including the books that were left out and the gospels that were left out. I read the bible with an open mind and that's why I can see it for the BS that it is. Its great for telling fables and that's about it. I've also studied the history of christianity. So you guessed wrong. |
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Hmm. That explains your rude and off-the-wall comments towads others on various threads. ------------------
"I drive modified Fieros- anything less would be uncivilized."
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fierobear
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MAY 30, 03:52 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Phranc:
Morality has changed even with gods. Slavery was morally acceptable to christians. Their little book even endorsed it. Society changed and now slavery is not morally acceptable any more. |
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OK, you have a point about slavery. Perhaps there ISN'T an absolute morality, but that would apply to human morality as well.
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Carver1
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MAY 30, 04:16 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Boondawg:
My book said that was his son.
Gods can't be killed.
I can send you my copy if you need to reread it.
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"For God so loved the world that he gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life." John 3:16
Jesus and God are the same. Jesus is God in human form. Humans can be killed. BUT, He was resurrected. This is Fact. Can you name any other person to rise from the dead? Jesus was sacrificed to wash all the sins of man away. This is the only way into Heaven.
Sorry if you believe different. God will be sorry to hear that. 
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