Have you got an L98 TPI you want more power out of ??? (Page 9/12)
Formula88 DEC 14, 10:26 PM

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Originally posted by AaronZ34:
My family has a lot of cars I don't share.

Well, by your own standards of proof, if you don't post pics of everything on Pennock's, it doesn't exist.
I see a Lumina and what may be a 55 Chevy. I don't see a DOHC Fiero or you, so they can't be yours.

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AaronZ34 DEC 14, 11:04 PM

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Originally posted by Formula88:


Well, by your own standards of proof, if you don't post pics of everything on Pennock's, it doesn't exist.
I see a Lumina and what may be a 55 Chevy. I don't see a DOHC Fiero or you, so they can't be yours.


It also takes logic. I don't find it hard to believe that someone's father can own a rust bucket, gutted interior 55. But making 400hp with a really mild cam, terrible heads, and a stock block is stretching the truth.

Steven Snyder DEC 14, 11:05 PM

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Originally posted by California Kid:
Just like the one clown who posted he had talked to Keith Huff who converted my car, and claimed Keith said " I sold Tom a Fiero with a "Stock" L98 ". Well guys, they didn't make stock L98's with 1.6:1 roller rockers, aftermarket cam, modified injectors, and two burned performance chips as standard equipment. What are you going to post next? That Keith lied to the two magazines that published articles on the car, stating it had 330 HP !!!

That was me. At the WCF BBQ at the beginning of this month I SPECIFICALLY asked him what was done to your motor, because of the debates that have been going on about it here on PFF. Why would he lie to me about it? There was no money involved in my transaction. I even asked him again to be sure I heard it right. "So the motor was stock when you sold it to him?" and he confirmed it.
Perhaps there's some logical explanation for this. The only reason I didn't post it before was because he said thats how it was when he sold it to you.. and you had no claims about things done to it when sold. Now that I mention it you come up with something? Coincidence? I don't know why you would make up something about how it was when you bought it, since that has no bearing on how it is now, but that doesn't help fix the discrepancy here. Only one of you is right... please explain why Keith would tell me a different story.

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California Kid DEC 14, 11:16 PM
RFT running off at the mouth again:
[ Quote from Shaun]

No you prove it!!! The member that saw your single valve cover is a well respected member in the fiero community and has no reason to lie. He mentioned he saw your car at the michigan fiero show(20th?) back when the car was still black in color. It had one valve cover on it he said. Now when did Lingenfelter ever only put one of their valve covers on an engine? You have tons of pics of your car. I am sure you have some proving you had 2 LPE valve covers on both banks so post them up.
end of quote

Well here ya go Shaun, front cover in question is the same as the back one:

Just goes to show that your sources for information aren't worth a sh$t, and you'll say anything to get to tick someone off, before confirming the information.

Here's another gem;
[my post]

This was all before I purchased the car, brought it back to Michigan, tore the engine down for more improvements, some of which weren't purchased parts like porting, and re-did the entire car.

[Shaun's post]
So ported heads added 70 hp?
end

So where does it say all I did was port the heads, seems you forgot to mention I modified (enlarged the lower intake runners) port matched to heads and new TPIS Runners purchased from Lingenfelter, modified the intake plenum inlet, floor, opened ports to match new runners, added new 52mm throttle body from Lingenfelter, had injectors modified for increased flow and re-balanced (yes it can be done) to support 400 hp range, added a new adjustable fuel regulator, and had a new chip burned for the car. I haven't tried to hide any of this information from anyone on Pennocks, it's all been posted at one time or another. By the way to don't need a dyno to get close to your target if you know some very talented people in your area, working at the GM Tech Center, I know a bunch of them.

Print this out and stuff it up you butt.

ryan.hess DEC 14, 11:30 PM
Since you seem to be avoiding me, I'll ask it flat out.

Why did you pass up the free dyno?

You should be able to "own everyone hardcore" pretty easily, right? When you're putting 350hp to the wheels, that would shut everyone up pretty quick, wouldn't you say? Unless there's something you know that I don't.................

Oreif DEC 14, 11:38 PM
So first you say:


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Originally posted by AaronZ34:

In an effort to establish credibility, my current project:

55 Bel Air 2 door post. 406 cubic inch, 4 bolt main, forged steel rods, forged aluminum pistons, Comp Camshaft, P&P 2.02 heads, Weind blower, Demon Carburetion, full MSD boost-regulated ignition-coil-distributor-wires, Equal length long tube headers, and a few other supporting parts.


Then you admit it isn't your car:


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Originally posted by AaronZ34:
My Dad drives it, and it is his car.

So in other words, Your Dad restores cars and you help out.

So with respect to your credibility, You just ride on the back of your Dad's credibility. So that means your Dad built the engine and you handed him a wrench so now you know how to build an engine. (Guess who's "credibility" just got shot down by his own words.)

I have many family members with cars that I have helped with as well but you don't see me taking credit for their cars.

So now a 200ft burn-out is a measure power? I had a 79 Grand Prix that could do that and it had the stock 301 V-8 with only around 120hp.
It sounds more like the 55 needs help with suspension/traction. Oh wait, It's a "a rust bucket, gutted interior 55" so without weight you could spin the tires all day long with minimal horsepower.

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Steven Snyder DEC 14, 11:43 PM
Hey Cali Kid, how about posting the dyno sheet that supposedly already exists?
"This engine was originally in a '91 Vette (350)and pulled out with 6,000 miles on it. It went through numerous performance modifications before being installed in the car in '93 (dyno'd 330 HP @ Tires). I'm the second owner of this car since conversion, don't have stats, as more improvement modifications were made to engine in the last 3 years. Based on claimed horsepower improvements of all the performance parts added, it should be over the 400 HP mark, and certainly feels like it." - California Kid from this thread: http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Archives/Archive-000002/HTML/20011127-1-008757.html
Hopefully you still have the documentation for that. Would shut some people up. Who had it dynoed?
California Kid DEC 14, 11:43 PM

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Originally posted by Steven Snyder:


That was me. At the WCF BBQ at the beginning of this month I SPECIFICALLY asked him what was done to your motor, because of the debates that have been going on about it here on PFF. Why would he lie to me about it? There was no money involved in my transaction. I even asked him again to be sure I heard it right. "So the motor was stock when you sold it to him?" and he confirmed it.
Perhaps there's some logical explanation for this. The only reason I didn't post it before was because he said thats how it was when he sold it to you.. and you had no claims about things done to it when sold. Now that I mention it you come up with something? Coincidence? I don't know why you would make up something about how it was when you bought it, since that has no bearing on how it is now, but that doesn't help fix the discrepancy here. Only one of you is right... please explain why Keith would tell me a different story.


First of all, I didn't buy the car from Keith, I bought the car from Charlie Williams, was storing the car at Keiths shop, as he was moving between houses. Maybe for some unknown reason, Keith didn't know what Charlie had done to the car, it could be changes were made to the engine after Keith had installed it. Fact of the matter is the parts are in there, and I wasn't the one that put them in. Charlie told me the parts were in there and also that it was putting out 330 Hp, that's contained in an article on this car in Kit Car January 1996 captioned POWER SWAP, that Keith provided some of the information for. So it certainly appears the either Keith wasn't fully in the loop on all modification to this car, or he loosing his mind. There another mag with making the same statements on this car build up as well. I can tell you one thing for sure, Charlie is an ex-pro Porsche Race Car Driver, there's no way he would settle for a stock L98 in his car, and he did race it for 3 years on road courses before I bought it from him.

Formula88 DEC 14, 11:51 PM

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Originally posted by California Kid:
By the way to don't need a dyno to get close to your target if you know some very talented people in your area, working at the GM Tech Center, I know a bunch of them.

Come on, Tom. You may work at the GM Tech Center, but Aaron held the droplight while his dad worked worked on daddy's 55. (assuming it even belongs to anyone in his family)

He's got you beat there. There is no way you could possibly compete with the wealth of knowledge Aaron has, no matter how many engineers you know at the GM Tech Center. I mean, it's not like you do anything technical for a living, right?

Seriously. 1.17g? How could you possibly test that at the GM Proving Grounds. You'd need a facility with pavement and stuff.

Steven Snyder DEC 14, 11:52 PM

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Originally posted by California Kid:
First of all, I didn't buy the car from Keith, I bought the car from Charlie Williams, was storing the car at Keiths shop, as he was moving between houses. Maybe for some unknown reason, Keith didn't know what Charlie had done to the car, it could be changes were made to the engine after Keith had installed it. Fact of the matter is the parts are in there, and I wasn't the one that put them in.

Thanks!

How about the 330 HP dyno chart? It must have been published in one of those mags or something..?

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