Stock 4.9 1/4 mile times? (Page 9/29)
Erik AUG 31, 04:33 AM

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Originally posted by Mastermind:


In otherwords, it was made to haul azz. But I already know that since I own one.

BTW Certain members hate 4.9s as if they got embarrassed by one still in a big Caddy.



I just worked on a 4.9 PFI caddy for someone and I would bet that it would beat a stock Fiero V6 manual in the 1/4. The thing had plenty of low end grunt BEFORE I changed the trans to apparently a stiffer geared one 3.33 ? and before it would effortlessly cruise at 80 with plenty of pickup . Now it is noticably quicker.

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86fieroEarl AUG 31, 06:55 AM

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Originally posted by The Punisher:

I tried calling you Earl. I am ready to do this. Get this thing settled once and for all. Check your voicemail.




Here's teh pm I sent you


Phone number is call me tommorrow near 9am to 2pm..... I work a 3rd shift starting at 9:30 pm all the way up to 800am so im mostly up in the daytime.... If on the weekend I can meet you halfway or what not because im off on weekends.

You called at 4:46pm That was on caller ID.... There's a reason I said between those times is because I work a 9 to 11 hour nightshifts I waited till 3pm then said the heck with it im hitting the sack before work.... Since your name is on caller ID I will be calling you today at 11 Am to comfirm our race location and a fitting time around both our work sche. Weekends are the only times I don't have to work and have free time.... I already got the area picked out anyway..... hopefuly there's no cops because if were caught going over 120 mph That is a auto 4years jail time and you lose your car. My work sche changes and shifts all the time.... Sometimes I go in early sometimes not.

Better yet if on the weekend We can certainly hit biffilo track..... It's 25bucks for 2 runs. Im more scared of jail time and fines then racing a 2.8
You say your car does 14.1 in ETA Then this will be cool because if I win then my car will be faster than 14.1 sec


Kento can vouch for my work sche....

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86fieroEarl AUG 31, 07:35 AM
And to make it fair.... Here's a pic of my engine bay.... When we do race your welcome to take another look at it so there's no excuses or no reason Not to race me. You offered to race me and you live in florida soo race me on my schel around work please.



as you can see in the pics this thing is bone stock.

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Arns85GT AUG 31, 07:38 AM

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Originally posted by Erik:

I just worked on a 4.9 PFI caddy for someone and I would bet that it would beat a stock Fiero V6 manual in the 1/4.


Yup. Linenoise took me, and his time in the high 14's was about 1/2 sec faster than my best time with my 2.8L 4 speed Muncie. He is now almost a full sec faster with the stock 4.9 and tranny.

Arn

Black-Azz-GT AUG 31, 07:49 AM

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Originally posted by The Punisher:

You know if you just waited and saved a little longer you could have had the sbc.


Not really because I dont half ass anything. I do it rite. My SBC, if I could have one, would be an LT1 at least. So I would need at least 10k because I dont have the place or time to do
an install myself. I knew you where going to say this though. So predictable.


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Want to know whats funny? Is that after you get done with your 4.9 swap, is that if you go and race your accord, you will lose to it from a roll.


There you go assuming again. My car with my 3.4 could beat my Accord. I had my brother race me in it. The 4.9 has more HP and loads more torque than the 3.4.



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And I am not assuming you will lose if I race you, I know you will lose be it you dont' haev any major engine work done to it IE nitrous. Its simple really. You dont' haev much for a power curve with that 4.9. Its not much about peak numbers, its about the curve. And I will say my curve on nitrous is brutal compared to a 4.9. Its simple really. When you get your 4.9 swap done, drive it on up to central florida. I will shake your hand and we can go race and you can buy me a victory beer afterwards. I have no problem with you. I just have a problem with people thinking this swap is the cats pajamas. Its not. Everyone has posted high 14's at the track with a 4.9 and auto tranny and fairly stock motor

Assuming again. My car is a 5speed for one, and there is a box full of goodies arriving today from Summit Racing. Oh and it's not NOS and I'll be able to rev better.

Still assume I will loose?

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Master Tuner Akimoto AUG 31, 08:15 AM
I am going to buy my ticket for a front row seat to this unprecedented once in a lifetime championship fight
86fieroEarl AUG 31, 08:38 AM

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Originally posted by The Punisher:


I just have a problem with people thinking this swap is the cats pajamas. Its not. Everyone has posted high 14's at the track with a 4.9 and auto tranny and fairly stock motor.


From that quote it seems your talking about me Please find anywhere I said the 4.9 was the cats pajamas or I thougt it was? Only thing I saw was more 4.9 bashing..... After awhile it gets very old.... About the high 14 times.... I wanted to make it clear that all 4.9s don't do mid or high 14s I know for a fact the 4.9 is capable of doing better and will still back my words up with that. Plus buget wise It can't get any better than that...... Let's add this up

The 2.8

Rebuild atleast $1500 and yes I believe in rebuilding a engine before you dump nitrous oxide into it.
Another $500bucks for that putting the 2.8 at $2000 bucks
Then you got headers, Intake, Ect
Now im way over my $3000 dollar limit.

To me budget wise it was not the choice for me.
Please prove me wrong and if you win I will shake your hand and buy you a beer..... If I win then I would hope for you to do the same..... Let's keep this fun.

Arns85GT AUG 31, 09:18 AM
I'd like to see some times for the stock 4.9 with the Gehtrag tranny.

I've been seeing alot of auto times, and I am pretty confident the times would drop quite a bit with the either the 4 or 5 speed gear boxes and somebody who can shift well.

As for NOS, sure you can pull out some ponies, but it will use up a stock motor pretty fast and it isn't the same as achieving hp through mechanical work. Respect to all concerned.

I think I'd like to see the results too.

Arn

Black-Azz-GT AUG 31, 09:37 AM

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Originally posted by Arns85GT:

I'd like to see some times for the stock 4.9 with the Gehtrag tranny.

I've been seeing alot of auto times, and I am pretty confident the times would drop quite a bit with the either the 4 or 5 speed gear boxes and somebody who can shift well.

Arn


You will see some soon enouph. I cant promise to be stock though. We just received a box from Summit racing containing 7 parts. I guess there are bolt ons if you know what you are doing.

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Master Tuner Akimoto AUG 31, 10:35 AM
I would just like to add a few things to this mix concerning the 4.9 swap,I try not to debate this subject so as to avoid the argueing just like any other swaps they have their strength and weaknesses but the unique thing about a 4.9 is the performance that is gained for so little $$$ invested over a stock 2.8.If you have never driven one then you are in no position to judge or critique it's ability based on what others say also some cars will perform better than some depending on the setup,like gearing,suspension and so on how a stock 2.8with a 50 shot of nitro will not stand a chance even from a rolling start.
My car even without nitrous will turn high 12's so it not all about spray but since I wanted that extra edge on the street or track that is my ace card and it is just like adding a turbo or supercharger "FORCED INDUCTION" the only difference is the turbo and supercharger is constant power unlike the nitrous which is power on demand so if your engine was tired and you added any of the above the life span will be short as opposed to a fresh motor but although the after market parte are limited for this motor basic hot rod technology still applies but at a price some may not be willing to pay for the extra performance ...............they are satisfied with what they have. I have a 4.9 car that I am working on as we speak that will turn 13's with out nitrous and still be a terror on the street with bolt on parts and tuning and will be ready in a week or so and still have room for improvement but most of all it is not about 3.4 TDC, 3.8SC or SBC it is respect for what you like for a swap in your Fiero.

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